The British new "INVISIBLE TANK"

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paskal

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http://blog.800hightech.com/invisible-military-tank/1047/

British defense researchers have invented a means to cloak tanks and make them invisible tank. London’s Daily Mail, Daily Telegraph and Sun all report on tests conducted by the Ministry of Defence last week in which a tank rolled across a field, completely invisible to observers standing at a certain point.

“This technology is incredible,” an unnamed soldier was quoted by the Daily Mail and Sun. “If I hadn’t been present I wouldn’t have believed it. I looked across the fields and just saw grass and trees — but in reality I was staring down the barrel of a tank gun.”

Although as you first heard this topic, it is not as mystical as it might seem. The technology relies on heavy use of camera and projectors. Basically, a camera films the background, which is then projected upon a special surface applied to something in the foreground — in this case, a tank.

You can see the similar technology in the following video that has gained a lot of popularity on the internet:unknown


My personel thoughts.....

I was watching History channel on Astro a few days ago about UNCONVENTIONAL WAREFARE.
They were talking about a magician from the British that applied its skills against the NAZIS.
He was in charge of defending the African state from being demolished from the superior NAZIS.
The magician took control of around 500 volunterrs that he called the "magician group".
He did a lot of smart things like making a hologram of a city at the sea.The nazis bomb the hologram city for three straight days without realizing that they were bombing the sea.
One more trick that he did was making a whole river dissapear from any germans bomber aircraft.The British needs the river badly for supplying its troops in that region.Incredibly the plans succed.The germans was blind by his wonderful skills.
The last trick that he did was making all the british tanks and artilery dissapear from the germans eye.
The german tanks that was passing by never got a chance what to see what strike him.It was something to do with reflecting the sunlight i guessed:rolleyes:

THe British defence ministry swore to not open this technology untill 2024!


As what i see to my eyes I think the BRitish applied the magician technics to this new invisible tank a little a earlier than schedule.
Its looks like the British have just created the first kind of invisible MBT.
 
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octopus7

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I've seen some footage of a chameleon type jacket that used multiple cameras and projectors to make the wearer invisible. But it was still only in developmental stage.
Do you have any links to articles about the use of chameleon technology back in ww2? I'm a bit skeptical about this.
 
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skyler1962

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I remembering watching a documentary about 20 or so years ago that was all about camoflauge techniques from WWI to present (mid-80's) and one thing they tried in WWII was lights attached to vehicles and also aircraft. The producers got the British military to try it out - lights attached to a wood frame and then attached to a tank, which was on the crest of a hill. The lights were turned on and as the camera zoomed out the tank actually disappeared...something to do with matching the light to the background light. Of course, only works to the naked eye.

On aircraft lights were attached to the leading edges and was quite effective when attacking U-Boats as the aircraft would blend into the sky.

The Germans were also very good at it, though you hear and read more about the British and American techniques.

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skyler1962

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Ok, did a quick search on the web and found out it's called Diffused Lighting Camouflage.

Oops..can't post a link I guess, but if you search that term, a result from the Musee naval de Quebec should come up. Canada did a lot of research into it during WWII and the page has some good info.

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McTaff

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paskal said:
hEMMMM let me guess......
Serious maybe!
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I'm sorry but a 'magician' in WWII creating holograms of cities and making rivers disappear, and the British promising to not unlock something until Year XXXX sounds a lot like hogwash.

If the British had this sort of technology since then:
a) Why hadn't someone else discovered it in the last 90 years (given that it was WWII-era technology)?
b) Why hadn't the secret leaked at some point?
c) Why wasn't it busted open when the Falklands loomed?
d) Why wasn't it worked on during the Cold War?

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Sticking lights on aircraft - that is definitely 100% true, and is still being used in UAV's. Tried and true technique for airborne/silhouetted objects.

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Invisible tanks sounds a little far-fetched, and I fail to see any related articles in reputable scientific magazines, nor reputable military journals, only sketchy reports from the tabloid newspapers which are barely accurate when it comes to real news.

Furthermore, it says "at a certain point", so even if it were an accurate report, it makes me less inclined to believe an invisible tank, more likely a way to conceal observation beyond a certain point (similar to projecting an image/hologram and obscuring what is behind it). If one recalls the "Bond" car - The Aston Martin 'Vanish', the whole camera/projection hype did generate a bit of publicity regarding the real deal, but this technique is so difficult to apply to a moving object that it is both extremely expensive and unreliable. Plus you aren't masking IR, radar, other visual clues.

This is about the only shred of plausibility I can possibly salvage from that entire report.
 
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kato

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I think (with the help of google) the magician he means was Jasper Maskelyne.

Supposedly, during 1941/42, in North Africa, he worked in a British counter-intelligence unit nicknamed the "Magic Gang", part of the Royal Engineers it seems.
The task of this unit was to design "realistic-looking" dummy targets used to divert German bombers from British units, and to deceive German intelligence as to British plans. The "Magic Gang" apparently consisted of about a dozen specialists - engineering, chemistry, stage construction, the kind of things you'll need to design this stuff - with additional auxiliaries to actually build their designs.
No holograms, or "magic tricks" involved, just lots of solid wood and paint placed in the right shape at the right place to mislead hostile intelligence.

Edit:
Now that i think about it - wasn't there some movie that used some of the above, not as the main part but somewhere in it? Italian movie, early 60s or so. Pretty bad movie, had Shermans or something like that with German markings ;)
 
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Waylander

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As you can imagine I was also referring to the magic part of the post as well as the idea of having a moving tank which is totally invisible for the human eye (The problems with thermals, radar, acoustic sensors have already been adressed).

That tech like building dummy targets (heck, the Us once covered whole industry complexes), putting lights on planes and using projector tech is no magic and hardly revolutionary should be common sense.

@Kato
Wasn't that "Tigers at El Alamain" or something like that?
Indeed very interesting german tanks... :D
 
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XaNDeR

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I heard of this tehnology , however it is severly inferior when the units are mobile , its good for an ambush , or to play with someone's intellegence , im actually more impressed with the Nano suit the US is planning to make in service in next few years that can build up strenght or speed of soldiers.
 
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paskal

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kato said:
I think (with the help of google) the magician he means was Jasper Maskelyne.

Supposedly, during 1941/42, in North Africa, he worked in a British counter-intelligence unit nicknamed the "Magic Gang", part of the Royal Engineers it seems.
The task of this unit was to design "realistic-looking" dummy targets used to divert German bombers from British units, and to deceive German intelligence as to British plans. The "Magic Gang" apparently consisted of about a dozen specialists - engineering, chemistry, stage construction, the kind of things you'll need to design this stuff - with additional auxiliaries to actually build their designs.
No holograms, or "magic tricks" involved, just lots of solid wood and paint placed in the right shape at the right place to mislead hostile intelligence.

Edit:
Now that i think about it - wasn't there some movie that used some of the above, not as the main part but somewhere in it? Italian movie, early 60s or so. Pretty bad movie, had Shermans or something like that with German markings ;)
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Yes this is what i meant:)
Thanks dude.
i dont think i can find this stuff in the internet:unknown
I heard this stuff when iwas watching the history cannel.
 
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