I thought the U.S. spends 4.4% of GDP of defense from what I saw from the 2008 defense budget. But it could be 3.7%, but in my opinion I think the U.S. should spend at least 6% on defense and the same goes for Russia. Germany should spend 5% up from 1.5-1.6% they do now.
Interesting accounting methods you use. You take the official published budgets for Russia & China, ignoring the fact that (as with some other countries, e.g. Italy) the defence budgets don't include anywhere near all the military spending, & compare that with an estimate of US military spending, including the highest possible (& I reckon, in some cases impossible) figures for off-budget & supplementary spending. Why not use the same methodology for everyone?
Why? What would all that be spent on? And BTW, Germany is spending less than 1.5% now. Maybe 1.3%.
I don't know what you mean by a force of stability, but on the EU topic they do have powerful military's but they will need the help of the U.S. if the worst should happen.
Well I think it should be spent on weapons to replace the ones being worn out in Iraq and Afganistain. Such as planes, ships, guns, tanks and APC's, aircraft and other military equipment.
Chrom please.
Interesting opinion from somebody who lives in a country without armed forces...
More like €120 billion. Not that it matters much, considering we're talking around half the German government budget either way.
I just took our GDP (oer) from CIA World Factbook and calculated 5% of it.
And exactly because of these figures, I am roughly aware, I cannot imagine what benefits we would get from a defense budget of 5% of GDP or something that comes even close to this.
Yes Chrom - the big bad evil Americans are at fault for causing all of the worlds woes, we are out to get Russia and China and build a big barrier around the both of them.
How many American companies are in Russia and China and helping out your economies, the company that I represent alone has over 9 industrial facilities in both countries and we plan on adding more. Everytime a thread like this opens up I have to read this type of Anti American bashing crap from you and a few others on this forum and most of it is nothing more than pure propaganda BS!You must differenciate between official politic and private bussiness interests. THERE ARE , of course, areas where USA and Russia have mutual economical and even political interests. This doesnt meant at all what USA somehow cares about Russia interests - no, of course not.Yes Chrom - the big bad evil Americans are at fault for causing all of the worlds woes, we are out to get Russia and China and build a big barrier around the both of them.
Source, proof!?!
Where?
Chrom - my company is one of the biggest manufacturers of aluminum products and smelters, we have our hands in automotive castings and defense products and just about everything else. Russia laid out the red carpet for us to go in and update these facilities with the latest technology and offer jobs in the joining communities. These were metal facilities that were in big financial trouble and we were able to go in and turn things around and offer good paying jobs, everyone gains from Putin to the average worker.
PROC real GDP = 2.5 trillion (2006) CIA factbook
Maybe when you stop being disresepectful. I came to this board because I heard it had high reputation of professionalism and good discussion. I have tried to post sources despite the block of insufficient posts. You demand proof yet have provided nothing to counter my position. I am still waiting sir.
