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RoxFTW

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First of all hey im new on this forum , i would like to say i love military related stuff and i like to know whats going on in these things so i keep track of it.

Then second i made something few days ago and i searched many websites and read alot of things and made 8 superpower's in the world info and statistic , info is from websites and statistic of training , tehnology etc is from my experience of following events and things and from the things i read. :)




1. United States of America

ARMY ,overall rating : 38

size: ******** ( 8 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********** ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Soldiers: 1,426,713
Soldiers reserve: 858,500
Main Battle Tanks: 7870
Artillery : 9000???
Armored Vehicles: ???

AIRFORCE ,overall rating : 40


size: ********** ( 10 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********** ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Combat Aircrafts: 3200
Bomber: 228
Armed Helicopters: 1290

NAVY ,overall rating : 37

size: ********** ( 10 )
training: ******** ( 8 )
experience: ********* ( 9 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 11
Missile Cruisers: 22
Destroyers: 49
Frigates: 30
Corvettes: 0
Nuclear submarines: 72
Conventional submarines: 0

2. Russia Federation


ARMY ,overall rating : 40


size: ********** ( 10 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Soldiers: 1,037,000
Soldiers reserve: 2,400,000
Main Battle Tanks: 22950
Artillery: 20500
Armored Vehicles: 29000

AIRFORCE ,overall rating : 37

size: ********* ( 9 )
training: ******** ( 8 )
experience: ********* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Combat Aircrafts: 2400
Bombers: 189
Armed Helicopters: 1700

NAVY ,overall rating : 34

size: ******** ( 8 )
training: ****** ( 6 )
experience: ******** ( 8 )
tehnology: ********* ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 1
Missile Cruisers: 5
Destroyers: 15
Frigates: 11
Corvettes: 85
Nuclear submarines: 40
Conventional submarines: 20

3. PLA ( CHINA )


ARMY ,overall rating : 29

size: ********* ( 9 )
training: ******* ( 7 )
experience: ******* ( 7 )
tehnology: ****** ( 6 )

Soldiers: 2,255,000
Soldiers reserve: 800,000
Main Battle Tanks: 8580
Artillery: 14500
Armored Vehicles: 7500

AIRFORCE ,overall rating : 26

size: ******* ( 7 )
training: ******* ( 7 )
experience: ***** ( 5 )
tehnology: ******* ( 7 )

Combat Aircrafts: 1400
Bombers: 120
Armed Helicopters: 204

NAVY ,overall rating: 23

size: ******** ( 8 )
training: ***** ( 5 )
experience: **** ( 4 )
tehnology: ****** ( 6 )

Aircraft carrier: 0
Missile Cruisers: 0
Destroyers: 29
Frigates: 47
Corvettes: 70
Nuclear submarines: 6
Conventional submarines: 25

4. United Kingdom


ARMY ,overall rating: 34

size: ***** ( 5 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********* ( 9 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Soldiers: 187,970
Soldiers reserve: 233,860
Main Battle Tanks: 583
Artillery: 146
Armored Vehicles: 3583

AIRFORCE ,overall rating: 35

size: ****** ( 6 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********** ( 10 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Combat Aircrafts: 480
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: 99

NAVY ,overall rating: 36

size: ****** ( 6 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 2
Missile Cruisers:
Destroyers: 8
Frigates: 17
Corvettes: ?
Nuclear submarines: 13
Conventional submarines: 0

5. France


ARMY ,overall rating: 32

size: ***** ( 5 )
training: ********* ( 9 )
experience: ********* ( 9 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Soldiers: 259,050
Soldiers reserve: 419,000
Main Battle Tanks: 614
Artillery: 484
Armored Vehicles: 5350

AIRFORCE, overall rating: 29

size: **** ( 4 )
training: ******** ( 8 )
experience: ******** ( 8 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Combat Aircrafts: 330
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: 108

NAVY ,overall rating: 35

size: ***** ( 5 )
training: ******* ( 10 )
experience: ******* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********* ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 1
Missile Cruisers:
Destroyers: 12
Frigates: 11
Corvettes: 9
Nuclear submarines: 10
Conventional submarines: 0

6. India


ARMY ,overall rating: 24

size: ******* ( 7 )
training: ******* ( 7 )
experience: ***** ( 5 )
tehnology: ***** ( 5 )

Soldiers: 1,325,000
Soldiers reserve: 1,155,000
Main Battle Tanks: 4800
Artillery: 4185
Armored Vehicles: 1645

AIRFORCE ,overall rating: 26

size: ******* ( 7 )
training: ******* ( 7 )
experience: ****** ( 6 )
tehnology: ***** ( 6 )

Combat Aircrafts: 738
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: ?

NAVY ,overall rating: 23

size: ***** ( 5 )
training: ****** ( 6 )
experience: ****** ( 6 )
tehnology: ****** ( 6 )

Aircraft carrier: 1
Missile Cruisers: 0
Destroyers: 8
Frigates: 12
Corvettes: 36
Nuclear submarines: 0
Conventional submarines: 16

7. Germany


ARMY ,overall rating: 37

size: ******* ( 7 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********** ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Soldiers: 284,500
Soldiers reserve: 358,650
Main Battle Tanks: 2870
Artillery: 480
Armored Vehicles: 6000

AIRFORCE ,overall rating: 29

size: **** ( 4 )
training: ******* ( 8 )
experience: ******* ( 8 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Combat Aircrafts: 382
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: 102

NAVY ,overall rating: 29

size: **** ( 4 )
training: ******** ( 8 )
experience: ******* ( 7 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 0
Missile Cruisers: 0
Destroyers: 0
Frigates: 15
Corvettes: 3
Nuclear submarines: 0
Conventional submarines: 12

8. Israel


ARMY ,overall rating: 36

size: ******* ( 7 )
training: ********* ( 9 )
experience: ********* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********* ( 10 )

Soldiers: 168,000
Soldiers reserve: 408,000
Main Battle Tanks: 3950
Artillery: 992
Armored Vehicles: 8200

AIRFORCE ,overall rating: 34

size: ****** ( 6 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********* ( 9 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Combat Aircrafts: 600
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: 209

NAVY ,overall rating: 19

size: ** ( 2 )
training: ****** ( 6 )
experience: ****** ( 6 )
tehnology: ***** ( 5 )

Aircraft carrier: 0
Missile Cruisers: 0
Destroyers: 0
Frigates: 0
Corvettes: 3
Nuclear submarines: 0
Conventional submarines: 6





So Far I Worked hard to find many things and read many things to make this , but its far from finished , thats why I would very much apreaciate your comments on what to improve and what you dont agree with and what to add. Thanks
 

Mikestro

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Israeli Army gets a 7 for size with 168k reg. soldiers and 408k reserves.

India Army gets a 7 for size with 1325k reg. soldiers and 1155k reserves.

This doesn't make sense? both have similar tank number but India has more Arty while Israel has more APC. Same with others like Britain and Germany.

I don't like the size component of the scoring. A Country with half a dozen high tech well trained fighters would score higher then a country with 1000's of older tech moderately trained aircraft.

I think if you were to organize a ranking like this you might want to do like the rankings I have seen on this site for Navies, IE Tier 1, 2, & 3.

And I would have to add I doubt that most of the countries listed count nearly as superpowers. (last I counted there was only one superpower). May a new different title would be more accurate, say regional powers or military powers.

And I think a country needs to be able to project power at distance to truly be an Super or global power or whatever you want to call them. This leaves Russia, USA, France, Britain, and to a lesser extent China.
 

RoxFTW

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First of all hey im new on this forum , i would like to say i love military related stuff and i like to know whats going on in these things so i keep track of it.

Then second i made something few days ago and i searched many websites and read alot of things and made 8 superpower's in the world info and statistic , info is from websites and statistic of training , tehnology etc is from my experience of following events and things and from the things i read. :)




1. United States of America

ARMY ,overall rating : 38

size: ******** ( 8 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********** ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Soldiers: 1,426,713
Soldiers reserve: 858,500
Main Battle Tanks: 7870
Artillery : 9000???
Armored Vehicles: ???

AIRFORCE ,overall rating : 40


size: ********** ( 10 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********** ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Combat Aircrafts: 3200
Bomber: 228
Armed Helicopters: 1290

NAVY ,overall rating : 37

size: ********** ( 10 )
training: ******** ( 8 )
experience: ********* ( 9 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 11
Missile Cruisers: 22
Destroyers: 49
Frigates: 30
Corvettes: 0
Nuclear submarines: 72
Conventional submarines: 0

2. Russia Federation


ARMY ,overall rating : 40


size: ********** ( 10 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Soldiers: 1,037,000
Soldiers reserve: 2,400,000
Main Battle Tanks: 22950
Artillery: 20500
Armored Vehicles: 29000

AIRFORCE ,overall rating : 37

size: ********* ( 9 )
training: ******** ( 8 )
experience: ********* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Combat Aircrafts: 2400
Bombers: 189
Armed Helicopters: 1700

NAVY ,overall rating : 34

size: ******** ( 8 )
training: ****** ( 6 )
experience: ******** ( 8 )
tehnology: ********* ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 1
Missile Cruisers: 5
Destroyers: 15
Frigates: 11
Corvettes: 85
Nuclear submarines: 40
Conventional submarines: 20

3. PLA ( CHINA )


ARMY ,overall rating : 29

size: ********* ( 9 )
training: ******* ( 7 )
experience: ******* ( 7 )
tehnology: ****** ( 6 )

Soldiers: 2,255,000
Soldiers reserve: 800,000
Main Battle Tanks: 8580
Artillery: 14500
Armored Vehicles: 7500

AIRFORCE ,overall rating : 26

size: ******* ( 7 )
training: ******* ( 7 )
experience: ***** ( 5 )
tehnology: ******* ( 7 )

Combat Aircrafts: 1400
Bombers: 120
Armed Helicopters: 204

NAVY ,overall rating: 23

size: ******** ( 8 )
training: ***** ( 5 )
experience: **** ( 4 )
tehnology: ****** ( 6 )

Aircraft carrier: 0
Missile Cruisers: 0
Destroyers: 29
Frigates: 47
Corvettes: 70
Nuclear submarines: 6
Conventional submarines: 25

4. United Kingdom


ARMY ,overall rating: 34

size: ***** ( 5 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********* ( 9 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Soldiers: 187,970
Soldiers reserve: 233,860
Main Battle Tanks: 583
Artillery: 146
Armored Vehicles: 3583

AIRFORCE ,overall rating: 35

size: ****** ( 6 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********** ( 10 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Combat Aircrafts: 480
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: 99

NAVY ,overall rating: 36

size: ****** ( 6 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 2
Missile Cruisers:
Destroyers: 8
Frigates: 17
Corvettes: ?
Nuclear submarines: 13
Conventional submarines: 0

5. France


ARMY ,overall rating: 32

size: ***** ( 5 )
training: ********* ( 9 )
experience: ********* ( 9 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Soldiers: 259,050
Soldiers reserve: 419,000
Main Battle Tanks: 614
Artillery: 484
Armored Vehicles: 5350

AIRFORCE, overall rating: 29

size: **** ( 4 )
training: ******** ( 8 )
experience: ******** ( 8 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Combat Aircrafts: 330
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: 108

NAVY ,overall rating: 35

size: ***** ( 5 )
training: ******* ( 10 )
experience: ******* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********* ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 1
Missile Cruisers:
Destroyers: 12
Frigates: 11
Corvettes: 9
Nuclear submarines: 10
Conventional submarines: 0

6. India


ARMY ,overall rating: 25

size: ******* ( 8 )
training: ******* ( 7 )
experience: ***** ( 5 )
tehnology: ***** ( 5 )

Soldiers: 1,325,000
Soldiers reserve: 1,155,000
Main Battle Tanks: 4800
Artillery: 4185
Armored Vehicles: 1645

AIRFORCE ,overall rating: 26

size: ******* ( 7 )
training: ******* ( 7 )
experience: ****** ( 6 )
tehnology: ***** ( 6 )

Combat Aircrafts: 738
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: ?

NAVY ,overall rating: 23

size: ***** ( 5 )
training: ****** ( 6 )
experience: ****** ( 6 )
tehnology: ****** ( 6 )

Aircraft carrier: 1
Missile Cruisers: 0
Destroyers: 8
Frigates: 12
Corvettes: 36
Nuclear submarines: 0
Conventional submarines: 16

7. Germany


ARMY ,overall rating: 37

size: ******* ( 7 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********** ( 10 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Soldiers: 284,500
Soldiers reserve: 358,650
Main Battle Tanks: 2870
Artillery: 480
Armored Vehicles: 6000

AIRFORCE ,overall rating: 29

size: **** ( 4 )
training: ******* ( 8 )
experience: ******* ( 8 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Combat Aircrafts: 382
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: 102

NAVY ,overall rating: 29

size: **** ( 4 )
training: ******** ( 8 )
experience: ******* ( 7 )
tehnology: ********** ( 10 )

Aircraft carrier: 0
Missile Cruisers: 0
Destroyers: 0
Frigates: 15
Corvettes: 3
Nuclear submarines: 0
Conventional submarines: 12

8. Israel


ARMY ,overall rating: 36

size: ******* ( 7 )
training: ********* ( 9 )
experience: ********* ( 10 )
tehnology: ********* ( 10 )

Soldiers: 168,000
Soldiers reserve: 408,000
Main Battle Tanks: 3950
Artillery: 992
Armored Vehicles: 8200

AIRFORCE ,overall rating: 34

size: ****** ( 6 )
training: ********** ( 10 )
experience: ********* ( 9 )
tehnology: ********* ( 9 )

Combat Aircrafts: 600
Bombers: 0
Armed Helicopters: 209

NAVY ,overall rating: 19

size: ** ( 2 )
training: ****** ( 6 )
experience: ****** ( 6 )
tehnology: ***** ( 5 )

Aircraft carrier: 0
Missile Cruisers: 0
Destroyers: 0
Frigates: 0
Corvettes: 3
Nuclear submarines: 0
Conventional submarines: 6





So Far I Worked hard to find many things and read many things to make this , but its far from finished , thats why I would very much apreaciate your comments on what to improve and what you dont agree with and what to add. Thanks
edited india

btw what do u mean by a Country with half a dozen high tech well trained fighters would score higher then a country with 1000's of older tech moderately trained aircraft.

Which did u mean?
 

Rich

Member
While I respect the effort you expended typing all this out it appears pretty subjective to me. Maybe you should list your qualifications in these matters , or, at least explain some of your ratings.

You give Russia awfully high marks.
 

Ozzy Blizzard

New Member
Who's number 9 & 10??? I dont mind your ratings, seem pretty much on the mark. Having an armies size as a peramiter should stay, it definatly does have an effect on war fighting capability. But why do the ruskie army get 10 for tech????? maybe give them a 12 for size and drop the tech to 7.
 

SABRE

Super Moderator
Verified Defense Pro
First of all the topic says "SuperPowers" ... the world is in unipolar dimension with USA as sole SuperPower. Others are just powers, not super powers.

2ndly the numerical/size criteria used here will also make "North Korea" a a power as well, so its completely rendered of credbility.

3rdly & most importently, when considering powers or super-power, Nuclear Weapons are not ignored. Here there is no mention of them.
 

Theodor

New Member
I would have to question the sources of this information.
And not to rain on anyones parade. Germany, France, India and Isreal are not superpowers.

More information on how these scores were determined might help.

If China is gets a 9 for army size, who or what would be a 10?
 

RoxFTW

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@Theodor Its not only soldiers , i took in account tanks , armored vehicles , so i gave China a bit lower mark

@SABRE yes im aware of that , i meant to say strongest powers in the world not Superpowers , that was a mistake

@Ozzy that high marks are based mostly on what tehnology's country's produce , high tech missiles , weaponry , and i think they are quite big in that category

@Waylander , Rich : thats why i would apreaciate what you guys would change in my grades of Germany and Russia?
 

Ozzy Blizzard

New Member
or at least iran

IRAN????? Are you kidding me?????? Their air force is a compleat shambles. the only decent platforms they have are the Cats and there cannablising them for parts, the only credible units their army have a revoloutionary guard and there navy is non existant. They're in a piss poor state!
 

Waylander

Defense Professional
Verified Defense Pro
I would not even try to rate countries like that.
It often results in a "my **** is bigger than yours"-threads.

Such a topic is far more complex and you just cannot rate countries like you did.
 

Ozzy Blizzard

New Member
I would not even try to rate countries like that.
It often results in a "my **** is bigger than yours"-threads.

Such a topic is far more complex and you just cannot rate countries like you did.
What like current warfighting capability???? The current state of equipment and force structure would be pretty important wouldn't it? On both those points the Iranians are indeed in a piss poor state.

Perhaps if i used more dispationate language????

I seriously doubt the current warfighting capability of the Iranian Armed forces can realy compare to the likes of the list stated above. As far as the air force is concerned, they are useing 30+yr old ex US platforms for the most part and with a US arms embargo they are being forced to canibalise platforms to keep a minimal ammount flying. And due to the age and lack of parts for these platforms training sheduals would be pretty irregular. So the fighting capability of the Iranian Air force isn't very impressive. And the navy is only a bare bones littoral capability, so i dont see how they can even be rated against the blue water capablity of the likes of the USN, RN and FN. As far as the land component the only formations that have a real combined arms warfighting capability are the revoloutionary guard units. That Doesent seem to be very impressive to me.
 

Todjaeger

Potstirrer
I would not even try to rate countries like that.
It often results in a "my **** is bigger than yours"-threads.

Such a topic is far more complex and you just cannot rate countries like you did.
I think Waylander is referring to attempts to rank various world militaries. Such comparisons are generally unpopular with mod and some members because they often do break down into size measuring contests having more to do with nationalistic pride than reality.

If people insist on trying to rank various militaries, then I think a tier system would likely work better, since it can generalize where different forces are in strength/capability without getting into detailed specifics.

-Cheers
 

Mikestro

New Member
Furthur more I dont see how the relation of scoring from army, navy and airforce relate to over all score?

China (PLA) in Third Place
-Army 29
-Air Force 26
-Navy 23
Total would be 78 ?

UK 4th place
-Army 34
-Air Force 35
-Navy 36
Total would be 105 ?

So 3rd place China (Pla) get total score of 78 out of 120 and 4th place UK gets 105 of 120. I do not see the connect between scoring and ranking. It just seems very subjective.
 
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