US authorises large sale of missiles to Taiwan

Musashi_kenshin

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US approves $421 mln Raytheon missile sale to Taiwan

The Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency, which oversees major foreign arms sales, said Taiwan had requested the sale of 218 AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAMs), as well as 235 AGM-65G2 Maverick missiles, and associated launchers and equipment.
When added to the existing 120 AMRAAMs (and 500 or so Mavericks) that will be a useful little stockpile. Not to say Taiwan doesn't need more missiles, but it'll be a big improvement.
 

Turk

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I think this weapons for Taiwan's F-16s and maybe for Their indirgenious warplanes this number of amount sales are medium I think,because it doesn't cahange anything.And I heard that Taiwan using Aim-7 s for their F-16s because their f-16s are block 1-20 . if they have got no amraam in their storage this can be commit on big change.

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Musashi_kenshin

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I think this weapons for Taiwan's F-16s and maybe for Their indirgenious warplanes
They're for the F-16s - the IDFs use the TC-2 missile.

And I heard that Taiwan using Aim-7 s for their F-16s because their f-16s are block 1-20 . if they have got no amraam in their storage this can be commit on big change.
The ROCAF already has 120 AMRAAMs, and the F-16s have been upgraded from the basic block status - one feature is that they can use AMRAAMs.
 

Zzims

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IMO, China had this coming. All of their unnecessary military flexing, the American are sending a message "we too can play at this game". Both countries are indeed playing with Fire. Taiwan is caught in the middle.
 

Musashi_kenshin

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IMO, China had this coming. All of their unnecessary military flexing, the American are sending a message "we too can play at this game". Both countries are indeed playing with Fire. Taiwan is caught in the middle.
Not really. China has certainly not helped itself with its recent attitude, but then again it has not really been able to block any arms sales in the past either. The freeze on the new F-16s was more about the Taiwanese legislative not passing arms purchases the main political parties actually do want (but we arguing over for petty political reasons).

It seems to me that the sale was approved because Taiwan placed the order.
 

knightz33

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US approves $421 mln Raytheon missile sale to Taiwan



When added to the existing 120 AMRAAMs (and 500 or so Mavericks) that will be a useful little stockpile. Not to say Taiwan doesn't need more missiles, but it'll be a big improvement.


I am afraid that even these missiles will not be much of a help if faced with China in a war...Maybe it can hold back China for a while...but not for long.Furthermore, this might provoke China into creating an arm's race in the region...with China producing more advance missiles and more nuclear weapons....:)
 

Chrom

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I am afraid that even these missiles will not be much of a help if faced with China in a war...Maybe it can hold back China for a while...but not for long.Furthermore, this might provoke China into creating an arm's race in the region...with China producing more advance missiles and more nuclear weapons....:)
Is not that exactly what USA want? First, recive money selling weapons to Taiwan. Second, force China to spend much more funds for weapon to "dampen" China's economic? And third, to better portray "evil commies coming!" to USA public so american army can recive more funds?
Basicaly, i see it as a "win-win" situation for certiain financial/ruling groups within USA, allthought not for whole USA as a nation.
 

Rich

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It seems to me that the sale was approved because Taiwan placed the order.
People who dont live here consistantly underestimate the level of American support for Taiwan. Most of all in congress and among the general Yank population.
 

merocaine

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Havent we been here before? is'ent it agreed that even before this sale of missles there was no chance of a PRC attack on Tiawan? That the chinese havent made any significent moves that would suggest an attack on Tiawan was even being seriously considered?

Those kind of arms sales dont make Tiawan more secure than it already is, because they are not under any kind of iminent threat, but they do keep the pentagon happy.
 

Rich

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Havent we been here before? is'ent it agreed that even before this sale of missles there was no chance of a PRC attack on Tiawan? That the chinese havent made any significent moves that would suggest an attack on Tiawan was even being seriously considered?

Those kind of arms sales dont make Tiawan more secure than it already is, because they are not under any kind of iminent threat, but they do keep the pentagon happy.
Yes, other then the 1,000 or so IRBMs aimed at them Taiwan is quite secure, nor has China "made any significant moves that would suggest an attack".

I guess its just more American war mongering.:rolleyes:

The Red Chinese actually made a law that authorizes an attack if Taiwan moves towards formal Independence. The vote in the National Peoples congress was 2,896 to 0. Imagine that? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32353-2005Mar13.html

Maybe we should enact a Law that authorizes attacks on Canada and Mexico if they dont stop "moves towards Independence". Or maybe Britain should flatten Northern Ireland with IRBMs if they dont cease "moves towards Independence". :unknown

Its all so hysterical tho isn't it Merocaine? "Life" I mean.

It must be because why has Europe so easily sold to the Devil the future of a free, Democratic Taiwan? http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=142&language_id=1
 

T-95

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Yes, other then the 1,000 or so IRBMs aimed at them Taiwan is quite secure, nor has China "made any significant moves that would suggest an attack".

I guess its just more American war mongering.:rolleyes:

The Red Chinese actually made a law that authorizes an attack if Taiwan moves towards formal Independence. The vote in the National Peoples congress was 2,896 to 0. Imagine that? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32353-2005Mar13.html

Maybe we should enact a Law that authorizes attacks on Canada and Mexico if they dont stop "moves towards Independence". Or maybe Britain should flatten Northern Ireland with IRBMs if they dont cease "moves towards Independence". :unknown

Its all so hysterical tho isn't it Merocaine? "Life" I mean.

It must be because why has Europe so easily sold to the Devil the future of a free, Democratic Taiwan? http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=142&language_id=1
lol, It's hard not say that the fate of Taiwan is sealed and no amount of 'winder x's and AMRAAM's is gunna stop the 400+ J-11's that China is going to purchase over the next 5 or so years.But ,maybe the US will swoop in with their F-22's and save the day :cool: .
 

tphuang

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Yes, other then the 1,000 or so IRBMs aimed at them Taiwan is quite secure, nor has China "made any significant moves that would suggest an attack".

I guess its just more American war mongering.:rolleyes:

The Red Chinese actually made a law that authorizes an attack if Taiwan moves towards formal Independence. The vote in the National Peoples congress was 2,896 to 0. Imagine that? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32353-2005Mar13.html

Maybe we should enact a Law that authorizes attacks on Canada and Mexico if they dont stop "moves towards Independence". Or maybe Britain should flatten Northern Ireland with IRBMs if they dont cease "moves towards Independence". :unknown

Its all so hysterical tho isn't it Merocaine? "Life" I mean.

It must be because why has Europe so easily sold to the Devil the future of a free, Democratic Taiwan? http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=142&language_id=1
free, democratic Taiwan? Have you followed their recent corruption scandals, the fake assassination attempt and the rigged election?
 

Transient

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free, democratic Taiwan? Have you followed their recent corruption scandals, the fake assassination attempt and the rigged election?
Taiwan is not the shining example of democracy. but at least the people of Taiwan get to choose their Government, and vote it out of office should they so desire. Do they get the right to self determination under China? :rolleyes:
 

Schumacher

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Yeah, it's just too convenient to simply use the 'free, democratic' tag on Taiwan without any knowledge of the situation on the ground. Kim Jung ill & the Taliban would not look so bad in terms of 'democracy' compared to some of the stunts Chen has pulled to stay in power, the 'assasination attempt' & the medical certificates he got for his wife to continuously avoid court appearance.
I only wish I can find a doctor as cooperative when I 'need' a medical cert. :eek:nfloorl:
 

tphuang

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Taiwan is not the shining example of democracy. but at least the people of Taiwan get to choose their Government, and vote it out of office should they so desire. Do they get the right to self determination under China? :rolleyes:
So what? How many governments out there can be credited to have lifted as many people out of poverty as the Chinese gov't. There are a lot more people in China satisfied with their gov't than in America or in Taiwan, I can tell you that. As for this get to vote it out of office stuff, it's kind of hard to do this when the president rigs the election when he thinks he is going to loose. (I'm guessing you haven't seen the picture of a little kid allowed to vote for the president in the last election)
 

Rich

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There are a lot more people in China satisfied with their gov't than in America or in Taiwan, I can tell you that.
I dont think there are to many people who would volunteer dissatisfaction.:D Certainly not when practicing Falun Gong exercises.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB16/documents/
http://clearharmony.net/articles/200611/36414.html

Kim Jung ill & the Taliban would not look so bad in terms of 'democracy' compared to some of the stunts Chen has pulled to stay in power, the 'assasination attempt' & the medical certificates he got for his wife to continuously avoid court appearance.
http://www.rawa.org/h-kill.htm
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/boysshot.htm
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/hr_facts.html
http://web.amnesty.org/report2004/chn-summary-eng

And my personal favorite http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/07/06/china-falungong.html

lol, It's hard not say that the fate of Taiwan is sealed and no amount of 'winder x's and AMRAAM's is gunna stop the 400+ J-11's that China is going to purchase over the next 5 or so years.But ,maybe the US will swoop in with their F-22's and save the day .
Somehow the rest of the world has convinced itself that China defeating the US, and establishing an empire, would be a good thing.
 

T-95

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I dont think there are to many people who would volunteer dissatisfaction.:D Certainly not when practicing Falun Gong exercises.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB16/documents/
http://clearharmony.net/articles/200611/36414.html


http://www.rawa.org/h-kill.htm
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/boysshot.htm
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/hr_facts.html
http://web.amnesty.org/report2004/chn-summary-eng

And my personal favorite http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/07/06/china-falungong.html



Somehow the rest of the world has convinced itself that China defeating the US, and establishing an empire, would be a good thing.
Seeing what US has been doing lately it would be great to see someone kick its ass for once and no other country is better suited for that task than China. And don't start with this empire shit about China because thats really hypocritical when it's coming from an American. Looks like your mad because China is replacing US as the worlds superpower.
 

Transient

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So what? How many governments out there can be credited to have lifted as many people out of poverty as the Chinese gov't. There are a lot more people in China satisfied with their gov't than in America or in Taiwan, I can tell you that.
So what? If the people of Taiwan wanted the PRC governance why is PRC so deathly afraid of a Taiwan referendum on independence? How successful China is and how much PRC Chinese like their government matters zilch. Simple matter is they do not want to be part of China.

As for this get to vote it out of office stuff, it's kind of hard to do this when the president rigs the election when he thinks he is going to loose. (I'm guessing you haven't seen the picture of a little kid allowed to vote for the president in the last election)
A democratic system sees these transgressions dealt with. In China any effort to do so gets people rolled over. With tanks.

Seeing what US has been doing lately it would be great to see someone kick its ass for once and no other country is better suited for that task than China. And don't start with this empire shit about China because thats really hypocritical when it's coming from an American. Looks like your mad because China is replacing US as the worlds superpower.
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