Don't they have other Vixen proposals/developments though, such as Vixen 750 for F-16 type fighters?
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on a second look, it does look like they have close relationships.
Anyhow, took look at their radar section.
http://www.selex-sas.com/pukrad_sas.html
no mention of Vixen 750
Two things:
1) Note that it says "more than". It doesn't say how much more than, & you probably won't be told unless you're a likely buyer. Usual British practice is not to release the real maximum range for any radar until it's out of service, & certainly not to quote some hypothetical-in-ideal-conditions-against-big-target maximum for sales purposes. Real customers will have access to the real figures.
2) You should compare it with the opposition. It's a lightweight radar for lightweight aircraft, e.g. armed trainers. On larger aircraft, you can fit a larger array (which would need a bigger power supply), for increased range, i.e. the Vixen 750, which has been mentioned in plenty of documents released by Selex. Not finding it in the document you've linked to in another post isn't significant.
Yes, they're the same. Or rather, they're both parts of the same firm, Finnmeccanica, the one named on the PDF tphuang linked to.
If you look at the original article, you see that the reference to talking to Galileo & Thales about a possible radar for the second batch is not connected to the reference to AESA. In fact, the Grifo is specifically mentioned. The mention of AESA comes later, after a few other remarks. Pshamin has misread the article.
This is a misreading. What the article actually says is
1) the PAF is in discussion with Galileo & Thales for a radar for the 2nd batch (no. 51 onwards). The Grifo is mentioned. I imagine the Thales contender is the RC400, but no Thales radar is named.
2) later in the same paragraph, after a number of other remarks, "we're looking at AESA", or words to that effect. It is not connected to the discussions with Thales & Galileo, but seems to be a future aspiration.
Did it say where? Some years back there was talk of turning Hyderabad airport into air force base & as far as I can remember PAF was talking abt housing F-16s there. The airport is not in use now days & Hyderabad bound traffic lands & takesoff from Karachi (Just 01:50 hrs drive awa).
Could be. But what I have heard that it may be in Balochistan. However, I am nor sure about the location.
In my opinion its a good move by puting F-16 in Hyd. or some where in Balochistan beacuse it also give some support to Navy also but are these F-16 are capable to help out NAVY in any aggretion.. ?
Lolling Around
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Radar detection and tracking range
What is the Radar detection and tracking range of the grifo? Are all paf fc1's gonna be equipped with it??
What is the Radar detection and tracking range of the grifo? Are all paf fc1's gonna be equipped with it??
I suggest you read the earlier posts. There, you will see that the Pakistan Air Force Chief, Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood, has talked to Air Forces Monthly about exactly this matter.
sehranasheen
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is JF-17 is good enough to fight with MIG29 and shoot it down?
Are you sure what are you talking about?
It was upgraded to 1.8 when wind-inlets were modified.
I think you'll find that they are shock ramps. they're forward of the inlets.
an israeli radar for jf-17 radar competition?? :shudder
A Chinese Radar has been selected for the initial batch of JF-17s and FC-1s. Pakistan may or may not select a Radar from Italy or France. FC-1s are likely to have Chinese Radars, but their is a competition from Russia and Israel.
http://www.jf-17.com/
Elta EL/M 2032:
Air-to-Air detection and tracking range up to 80 NM.
http://www.iai.co.il/Default.aspx?docID=26591&FolderID=21248&lang=en
how in the name of god is it even possible? Israel offering radars to PAF??
A Chinese Radar has been selected for the initial batch of JF-17s and FC-1s. Pakistan may or may not select a Radar from Italy or France. FC-1s are likely to have Chinese Radars, but their is a competition from Russia and Israel.
http://www.jf-17.com/
Elta EL/M 2032:
Air-to-Air detection and tracking range up to 80 NM.
http://www.iai.co.il/Default.aspx?docID=26591&FolderID=21248&lang=en
how in the name of god is it even possible? Israel offering radars to PAF??