Will China beat US to Mars ?!?!
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Khamosh Mujahid
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If you had read the "signs" carefully, you should've seen statements by US senators and other politicians that all this scientific research makes US the one and only kind to have control over space and it is also "morally correct" to do so against other worldly evils...shamayel said:
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I think the US would win a race to Mars with China without question. There is currently no other ogranization in the world that compares to NASA. Does this mean China is a "bad country" or "inferior"? Absolutely not. In fact, the Chinese are quite industrious and intelligent and have all of the needed components to build a highly successful space program that could rival or even eclipse NASA.
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For the US, this is an all out war to not let anyone get ahead of them in anything, including establishing a presence on Mars. If that means finding a pretext to going to war with China (i.e. if China moves on Taiwan) than that's what they might use in the not so distant future. In this next century, whoever controls space will pretty much control the world.. and not to mention will establish the rites of passage to control Mars.shamayel said:
For China, they are just trying strive for excellence and compete with the most advanced countries b/c they are capable of it. Not to mention to trying to limit US hegemony.
I have to disagree with you on the US wanting a pretext to war with China Indus. In fact I can say without doubt that China is the last country on Earth that the US would want to fight for a multitude of reasons. I do agree that whomever gets control of space will control the planet, but more of in an economic sense than a political sense.
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Agreed. China doesn't have the base and institution like NASA to land man on Mooon, mars is to far fetched. Maybe in another 15-20 years China will have enough experience to go for the man mission to mars.[/quote]
THat's what I'm saying. The US goal is to have a man on Mars by 2030. DIdn't you hear that in the news - Bush's speech. If China does it w/i 20yrs they will have beat US.
THat's what I'm saying. The US goal is to have a man on Mars by 2030. DIdn't you hear that in the news - Bush's speech. If China does it w/i 20yrs they will have beat US.
Life once existed on Mars, Australian scientists say
Australian scientists believe they have found evidence that life once existed on Mars.
They have found that microscopic fossils of primitive bacteria-like organisms in a Mars meteorite match characteristics of bacteria found in mud in Queensland.
The research is published today in the Journal of Microscopy.
One of the scientists, Dr Tony Taylor from the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation, says he expects his work will spark intense debate.
"The fossils that we have in the meteorite are the original material - the only difference is that you need a very high-powered electron microscope to image them, to see them and basically whenever we find these fossils here on Earth, no one ever questions they were made by bacteria," he said.
"The only difference is that it was in a meteorite from Mars."
Dr Taylor says he has found enough evidence of life on Mars to warrant a manned mission to the red planet and that more samples must now be collected from Mars for further investigation.
"We've now got enough evidence to warrant a sample retrieval mission and I believe it's going to be a matter of developing the technology to get authentic pieces of Mars back here on Earth where we can subject them to the really high-tech high resolution instruments that you can't possibly put on Mars," he said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1033640.htm
This should motivate a few more people about going to Mars.
Australian scientists believe they have found evidence that life once existed on Mars.
They have found that microscopic fossils of primitive bacteria-like organisms in a Mars meteorite match characteristics of bacteria found in mud in Queensland.
The research is published today in the Journal of Microscopy.
One of the scientists, Dr Tony Taylor from the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation, says he expects his work will spark intense debate.
"The fossils that we have in the meteorite are the original material - the only difference is that you need a very high-powered electron microscope to image them, to see them and basically whenever we find these fossils here on Earth, no one ever questions they were made by bacteria," he said.
"The only difference is that it was in a meteorite from Mars."
Dr Taylor says he has found enough evidence of life on Mars to warrant a manned mission to the red planet and that more samples must now be collected from Mars for further investigation.
"We've now got enough evidence to warrant a sample retrieval mission and I believe it's going to be a matter of developing the technology to get authentic pieces of Mars back here on Earth where we can subject them to the really high-tech high resolution instruments that you can't possibly put on Mars," he said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1033640.htm
This should motivate a few more people about going to Mars.
Swiss too have passion for mars :arrow: :
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/29/1075088098938.html
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/29/1075088098938.html
What would be an interesting combination is the swiss UAV using a new UAV artificial intelligence programme developed by the DSTO in Australia.
If they are looking at autonomous control then it could be a marriage of convenience.
If they are looking at autonomous control then it could be a marriage of convenience.
I've already emailed a copy of that article off to people I know - just in case they weren't aware of what the swiss are doing. its a funny environment sometimes, these groups sometimes find out what is happening through the media. a little strange but unfortunately true at times.
lol, yeah, thats why the US military developed the internet - so that scientists could talk to each other.
I've been on a couple of projects where weapons technology developed in one country was unknown in another, and yet there is a "sharing treaty" in place. The funny thing was that the technology was common knowledge with the weapons guys but was unknown to the boffins.
just goes to show how even the smartest orgs can make "human" mistakes..
I've been on a couple of projects where weapons technology developed in one country was unknown in another, and yet there is a "sharing treaty" in place. The funny thing was that the technology was common knowledge with the weapons guys but was unknown to the boffins.
just goes to show how even the smartest orgs can make "human" mistakes..
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The US will get to Mars first if they want to. If Dubya comes out and states unequivocably that the US WILL get there first and then backs up the speech with the necessary resources, like JFK did (when he said the US WILL get to the Moon first), no-one else could possibly beat America there. Whether it's a high priority or not will determine who gets there first. Cheers.
The Watcher
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Dubya isn't as interested in Space as he is in Oil, etc. If he gets reelected, his main focus would be Iraq and how to get out of it. That speech about Mars, etc. was just a political JFK wanna be ploy!
For china to go for Mars, first it must land a man on Moon and prove its expertise in space.
For china to go for Mars, first it must land a man on Moon and prove its expertise in space.
Khamosh Mujahid
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But US has the dough and the technology which sadly China lacks!!! :eek