Which is the World's Best Tank??
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The Arjuns problems have been due to overdesigning capability and putting in the wrong engine pack. As Aussie said, the M1's and Challys performed well. The US learnt long ago that the key to tank persistency was to make sure that the tankers regularly replaced filters in desert ops.srirangan said:
The Arjun should have been a good tank, in actual fact it could have been the most effective tank in the region, if they had defined their armour doctrine, matched the tactical requirement to that doctrine, tried not to turn it into a "land battleship" and then got a decent engine pack. It's core technology design parameters was based on the Leopards, as such it's core design principles were very competent.
Heavens knows why it stuffed up like that - it shouldn't have and someone should be held accountable.
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I see gf, that Australia's "new" M1A1's will have an "automatic" air filter cleaning device, some sort of device that creates a jet pulse of air to blow the sand away as I understand it. I guess this too was a result of the Gulf Wars eh?
Introduction
Al-Khalid is one of the newest and one of the most deadliest tanks in the world, its a result of the advanced technology available in the world today. It meets severe desert conditions, with high performance. It represents the ideal integration of firepower, mobility and protection. This tank is created In Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) Pakistan. Pilot production is underway since November 2000.
Al-Khaild Tanks Unique Abilities
Al-Khalid is capable of targeting the enemy in the dark of night. It is the only tank that has the ability to auto-track the enemy's tanks. Only French tanks have this capability. It is also as powerful as the German tank Leopard in terms of movement. The Al-Khalid tank's performance is much better than the Russian T-90-S tank, since its designed extreme temperatures.
Features & Fire Power
Al-Khalid has been designed with a 125mm (48 caliber) smooth bore, auto-frettaged and chrome plated gun which can fire APFSDS, HEAT-FS and HE-FS conventional ammunition and missiles. It is equipped with muzzle reference system, and bi-axis stabilization. Elevation and azimuth control is achieved by electro-hydraulic power drives. The tank is also equipped with a 7.62 mm-coaxial MG, 12.7mm externally mounted MG that can be fired with the hatch closed and grenade launchers.
The gunner is provided with a dual magnification day sight and the commander with a panoramic Hunter Killer sight for all around independent surveillance. Both sights are bi-axis image stabilized and have independent laser range finders.
Multi-Target Engagement Abilities
The commander has the ability of acquiring a target independently while the gunner is engaging a previously selected one.
Rate Of Fire
The automatic ammunition handling system, with 24 round ready-to-fire magazine further supplements the Hunter-Killer capability of the tank which can load at a rate of 8 rounds a minute. The presence of automatic target tracking system enables the tank to achieve a very high first round hit probability even while firing on a moving target while moving itself.
Night Vision
Night vision for the gunner and commander is achieved through a dual magnification thermal imaging sight. The powerful fire control system computer processes all the firing information, which includes inputs from its ten sensors and is integrated to both sights.
Fire Control
The ballistic computation time is less than one second. For accurate fire control, third generation gating facility has been provided. The result of such a modern fire control system is, routine first round hits on standard (8 ft x 8 ft) targets at ranges in excess of 2000 meters.
The tank with its 125mm gun has a remarkably stable platform, which is provided by a combination of soft recoil and an excellent suspension.
Wrapped around the fire control system are the ergonomic crew positions and controls. The tank commander, gunner and driver can virtually reach all their controls with little movement.
Engine
A 1200 horsepower super charged, diesel engine and semi-automatic transmission, provides mobility. An under Armour auxiliary power supply unit provides a significant reduction in fuel consumption during 'Silent Watch' and maintenance operations, as auxiliary functions can be performed without main engine power. The highly reliable suspension consists of torsion bars, hydraulic dampers and buffers that afford a high level of comfort for its crew.
Combat Weight & Speed
Besides a low silhouette, it is considerably smaller as compared to other modern tanks. Its maximum weight of 46 tons provides a double advantage; it is strategically easily deployed and is more agile. Its power to weight ratio, in excess of 26 HP/ton, gives the vehicle a maximum speed of around 70 km/h, acceleration from 0~ 30 km/h in less than 10 seconds.
Its low mean maximum pressure and the excellent ride given by its suspension make Al-Khalid an ideal vehicle to fight in any theatre of operation.
Armour & Protection
Al-Khalid has been designed to provide maximum protection and efficiency for its 3 men crew. Protection is afforded by use of modular composite Armour and explosive reactive Armour. Al-Khalid also offers enhanced protection through NBC, an effective Thermal Smoke Generation, Automatic Fire Extinguishing and Explosion Suppression Systems.
Limited Under Water Capabilities
The submerging system allows it to operate 5 meters under water. Navigation is assisted by the use of Global Positioning and Inertial Navigation Systems.
Al-Khalid & Arjun Tank
Al-Khalid is far more modern than India's Arjun, which took 25 years to be developed and is still not completed. Pakistan already has an edge over India in an armed conflict, but after the addition of Al-Khalid, Pakistan would be invincible in a land war.
Al-Khalid is one of the newest and one of the most deadliest tanks in the world, its a result of the advanced technology available in the world today. It meets severe desert conditions, with high performance. It represents the ideal integration of firepower, mobility and protection. This tank is created In Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) Pakistan. Pilot production is underway since November 2000.
Al-Khaild Tanks Unique Abilities
Al-Khalid is capable of targeting the enemy in the dark of night. It is the only tank that has the ability to auto-track the enemy's tanks. Only French tanks have this capability. It is also as powerful as the German tank Leopard in terms of movement. The Al-Khalid tank's performance is much better than the Russian T-90-S tank, since its designed extreme temperatures.
Features & Fire Power
Al-Khalid has been designed with a 125mm (48 caliber) smooth bore, auto-frettaged and chrome plated gun which can fire APFSDS, HEAT-FS and HE-FS conventional ammunition and missiles. It is equipped with muzzle reference system, and bi-axis stabilization. Elevation and azimuth control is achieved by electro-hydraulic power drives. The tank is also equipped with a 7.62 mm-coaxial MG, 12.7mm externally mounted MG that can be fired with the hatch closed and grenade launchers.
The gunner is provided with a dual magnification day sight and the commander with a panoramic Hunter Killer sight for all around independent surveillance. Both sights are bi-axis image stabilized and have independent laser range finders.
Multi-Target Engagement Abilities
The commander has the ability of acquiring a target independently while the gunner is engaging a previously selected one.
Rate Of Fire
The automatic ammunition handling system, with 24 round ready-to-fire magazine further supplements the Hunter-Killer capability of the tank which can load at a rate of 8 rounds a minute. The presence of automatic target tracking system enables the tank to achieve a very high first round hit probability even while firing on a moving target while moving itself.
Night Vision
Night vision for the gunner and commander is achieved through a dual magnification thermal imaging sight. The powerful fire control system computer processes all the firing information, which includes inputs from its ten sensors and is integrated to both sights.
Fire Control
The ballistic computation time is less than one second. For accurate fire control, third generation gating facility has been provided. The result of such a modern fire control system is, routine first round hits on standard (8 ft x 8 ft) targets at ranges in excess of 2000 meters.
The tank with its 125mm gun has a remarkably stable platform, which is provided by a combination of soft recoil and an excellent suspension.
Wrapped around the fire control system are the ergonomic crew positions and controls. The tank commander, gunner and driver can virtually reach all their controls with little movement.
Engine
A 1200 horsepower super charged, diesel engine and semi-automatic transmission, provides mobility. An under Armour auxiliary power supply unit provides a significant reduction in fuel consumption during 'Silent Watch' and maintenance operations, as auxiliary functions can be performed without main engine power. The highly reliable suspension consists of torsion bars, hydraulic dampers and buffers that afford a high level of comfort for its crew.
Combat Weight & Speed
Besides a low silhouette, it is considerably smaller as compared to other modern tanks. Its maximum weight of 46 tons provides a double advantage; it is strategically easily deployed and is more agile. Its power to weight ratio, in excess of 26 HP/ton, gives the vehicle a maximum speed of around 70 km/h, acceleration from 0~ 30 km/h in less than 10 seconds.
Its low mean maximum pressure and the excellent ride given by its suspension make Al-Khalid an ideal vehicle to fight in any theatre of operation.
Armour & Protection
Al-Khalid has been designed to provide maximum protection and efficiency for its 3 men crew. Protection is afforded by use of modular composite Armour and explosive reactive Armour. Al-Khalid also offers enhanced protection through NBC, an effective Thermal Smoke Generation, Automatic Fire Extinguishing and Explosion Suppression Systems.
Limited Under Water Capabilities
The submerging system allows it to operate 5 meters under water. Navigation is assisted by the use of Global Positioning and Inertial Navigation Systems.
Al-Khalid & Arjun Tank
Al-Khalid is far more modern than India's Arjun, which took 25 years to be developed and is still not completed. Pakistan already has an edge over India in an armed conflict, but after the addition of Al-Khalid, Pakistan would be invincible in a land war.
For any tank operating in a desert or fine dust environment it's an obvious requirement, so I really fail to see why all tank builders have not made it a requirement. At least we've installed an auto pressure cleaner - which will reduce the amount of TLC needed at each stopping point. The M1's are pressurised internally for NBC warfare - so the goo stays out of the cabin etc..Aussie Digger said:
I know that the MOD UK was working on a fix for our Tanks they were having problem related to dust but there are no pressure cleaners i guess as soon as the american adopt it we will get it too. i am sure we don't have such systems, i can bet Australia has better tank Abilities then the UK you guys have alot more desert like terain training. HOwever we have been in real wars in the Midle east multiple time, you would think we would have a cure for this dust problem, well recently we just do .gf0012 said:
DEstroyer , thx thx a lot for such a pain in excavating the details from the scum. u have realy put us much and more wiser about somethig wich was previously taking and believed blindflodedly, but know i think ir is quite obvious and apparent to all, i am not to denounce someone,s views but aim is to talk about facts here and benefit from each other , this is realy a marvellous job u have done , i will try to realy follow u in such persuits,pray for me ,and once again thx a lot for ur job done and realy very well done, :idea2
:lol siri, but did you look at the specs compare them with the T-90s of india i would think if any one makes good tanks its got to be the Russians, although i agree the A1 have gotten alot of battle feild tweaking they have been at war since it rolled out. but just compare the specs with (not the Patriotic Bulls on the list) t90s. you would find where the aRjun project went wrong, the Ukrainians and Pak compensated on armor for movement.
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Yeah ADSH, the Australian Army really has had to learn how to deal with dust, given the terrible red "bull dust" we have to put up with down here. I don't know if that makes us better "desert fighters" than the British, but we have done very well in that (and most other types) of terrain.
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Pretty much, except they're actually drier than those if possible... Australia has the luck of being the driest continent on Earth...
The one's here are unbelievably dusty. I live in New Delhi, and in the moths of April-May there's a local wind from the Thar Desert (Rajasthan/Pakistan) that blows over the city. Even though the distance, the effect is huuge. We can just imagine what the scene will be in the battle's in the desert.
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I know what you mean, the dust in the Australian Outback is a bright red colour (due to a high iron content no doubt) and has a extremely annoying habit of being able to get absolutely anywhere into a vehicle etc, no matter how well insulated/protected. We don't get the problem in our cities (thankfully) but it's a problem in the Country.
A-D, if you ever decide to buy an ex Telstra Landcruiser at auction, make sure you beat the crap out of the dashboard from underneath. Half the desert is likely to fall out..Aussie Digger said:
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The last 4WD I bought at auction was a lovely little SR5 Hilux Extra Cab. It was an ex-water board ute with 40,000klms on the clock, not a scratch on it and the only off-road driving it had ever done was pull into someone's driveway... Wish I'd kept it really, I don't even own a 4WD now...
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