P38 pistols continued as issue weapons for the Bundeswehr until 2008, upon which they were donated to Afghanistan. Where they are still in service.
What equipment is still in operationa/training l use from WWII
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Vietnam still has a bunch of WWII anti-tank gun in service, specifically the ZiS-2 57mm and ZiS-3 76mm. They're in service with their marines.
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Also some Soviet 37mm AAA guns on the Spartley islands.
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T-34-85s in exercises, also in the Spartley islands.
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Also they still have Su-100 SPGs (or would they be classified as TDs?). And they're not just in storage, the second link has footage of live fire exercises.
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85mm D-44s also still in active service.
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PPSh being used to simulate what appears to be artillery fire at table-top training exercises.
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76-мм дивизионные пушки ЗиС-3 и 57-мм противотанковые пушки образца 1941 года (ЗиС-2) во Вьетнаме
В 2019 году оборонный завод Z133 министерства обороны Социалистической Республики Вьетнам для нужд подразделений морской пехоты Вьетнамского народного флота провел ремонт и восстановительные работы советских 76-мм дивизионных пушек образца 1942 года (ЗиС-3).…
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76-мм дивизионные пушки образца 1942 года (ЗиС-3) в морской пехоте ВМС Вьетнама
Оборонный завод Z133 министерства обороны Социалистической Республики Вьетнам для нужд подразделений морской пехоты Вьетнамского народного флота провел ремонт и восстановительные работы советских 76-мм дивизионных пушек образца 1942 года (ЗиС-3).
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Also some Soviet 37mm AAA guns on the Spartley islands.
Советская 37-мм автоматическая зенитная пушка образца 1939 года на острове Спратли
Стрельбы советской 37-мм автоматической зенитной пушкой образца 1939 года (61-К) зенитным расчетом гарнизона подконтрольного Вьетнаму острова Спратли в одноименном архипелаге Южно-Китайского моря. В последние годы Вьетнам также проводил активные работы по укреплению и расширению …
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T-34-85s in exercises, also in the Spartley islands.
Танк Т 34-85 Вьетнамской Народной Армии на одном из островов в архипелаге Спратли
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Also they still have Su-100 SPGs (or would they be classified as TDs?). And they're not just in storage, the second link has footage of live fire exercises.
СУ-100 во Вьетнамской народной армии
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Стрельбы САУ СУ-100 Вьетнамской народной армии
Стрельбы САУ СУ-100 Вьетнамской народной армии. До сих пор в строю.
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САУ СУ-100 во Вьетнамской народной армии
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85mm D-44s also still in active service.
Советская 85-мм дивизионная пушка Д-44 образца 1944 года во Вьетнаме
На учениях 36-й артиллерийской бригады Вьетнамской Народной Армии засветилась советская 85-мм дивизионная пушка Д-44 образца 1944 года. Разработана в КБ завода № 9 (Уралмаш) под руководством главного конструктора Ф. Ф. Петрова во второй половине 1944 года, где после ряда…
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PPSh being used to simulate what appears to be artillery fire at table-top training exercises.
Неожиданное применение пистолетов-пулеметов Шпагина (ППШ-41) во Вьетнамской народной армии
Неожиданное применение пистолетов-пулеметов Шпагина для обучения молодых офицеров на макете местности в 45-й артиллерийской бригаде Вьетнамской народной армии.
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There's a blog, WWII After WWII, that has tons of fascinating posts about the longevity of WW2 equipment after the war (sometimes up to today).
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Very interesting site!!
Vietnam continues to deliver, Soviet pre-war AAA. I can't help but wonder just how much gear they have in storage. It's reminiscent of Soviet/Russian depots.
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Бережное хранение и капитальный ремонт зенитной артиллерии советского производства во Вьетнаме
Большой репортаж телеканала Bo Qun министерства обороны Социалистической Республики Вьетнам с военной базы хранения ресурсов № 816, где на хранении находятся зенитные орудия советского производства 1930-1950 гг. производства. На кадрах продемонстрированы, находящиеся в отличном…
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BS-3 anti-tank guns and M-30 howitzers in service in Mongolia, at a live fire exercise. The BS-3 dates to 1944, the M-30 to 1938.
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Конкурс "Мастер артиллерийского огня-2020" в монгольской армии
Стрельбы винтажной монгольской артиллерии на конкурсе Мастер артиллерийского огня-2020. На заглавном фото советские 100-мм полевые пушки образца 1944 года (БС-3). Монгольские ЗУ-23 на грузовиках Unimog-S Советская 122-мм гаубица образца 1938 года (М-30, индекс ГАУ 52-Г-463).
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They might be old, but they're still capable of ruining an unlucky flyboy's day.Vietnam continues to deliver, Soviet pre-war AAA. I can't help but wonder just how much gear they have in storage. It's reminiscent of Soviet/Russian depots.
Бережное хранение и капитальный ремонт зенитной артиллерии советского производства во Вьетнаме
Большой репортаж телеканала Bo Qun министерства обороны Социалистической Республики Вьетнам с военной базы хранения ресурсов № 816, где на хранении находятся зенитные орудия советского производства 1930-1950 гг. производства. На кадрах продемонстрированы, находящиеся в отличном…
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Makes not one iota of difference whether the Rounds puncturing your Fuselage was fired by something 1 month old or 70 years old, does the same degree of damage.
In principle yes. However there's a reason these systems have been retired. Their chances of hitting something are extremely low. Keeping them in storage and manning them costs something. It's not free. I can't help but wonder what the point is? Their odds of hitting a modern fast jet are basically 0. They could ambush helos, I guess. But with modern electro-optics their chances for success aren't great. If they use radios for comms, they get geo-located by ELINT/SIGINT posts. If they don't, they have literally no warning of incoming aircraft. They also have to be supplied with food and water, which means tying up logistical capacity. Overall I guess they're better then nothing if nothing is the alternative. But it's hard to see why nothing is alternative. Vietnam has money. They could invest in relatively inexpensive and far more modern systems.
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Well the L1A1 or better known in the Australian Army as the SLR is still in service as the Drill Rifle used by the Federation Guard, which i thought was a great idea, just looks far better then using the Steyr in that role.
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Agree, I have done Catafalque Party using both weapons would have to say using the SLR is by far the more impressive of the two. Untill the VIP’s speech waffles on far to long and you foot goes numb with the barrel resting on it too long, only happened the once but by crikey it was hard to to the steps again when you can’t feel your foot.
But can’t help thinking what the procedure was using the SMLE as I’ve never seen it done.
Can’t seem to find any footage, cant looking on the AWM site just pictures of reversed arms using SLR. Nagati might know he’s been around the block a few times
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Found it on cadets drill manual
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Only ever used the SLR as a cadet. When I went ARA it was Steyr only- I'll go for that on weight alone for drill (lazy/old now)
I did all my drill on the SLR and IMHO, it looks far snappier than Steyr drill. Then again my opinion is somewhat biased.
I note that the new NZDF drill with their new rifles looks like a mixture of Steyr and SLR drill. They don't rest the rifle on the ground at the AT EASE command because the new rifles are to short.
I note that the new NZDF drill with their new rifles looks like a mixture of Steyr and SLR drill. They don't rest the rifle on the ground at the AT EASE command because the new rifles are to short.
PM-43 (from 1943) mortars in service in Mongolia in the top photo (it and the rest of the set are Russo-Mongolian training exercises Selenge-2020). Note the wheeled carriages standing separately behind them.
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Just a nice pic
Батарея 120-мм полковых миномётов образца 1943 года (ПМ-43) монгольской армии на совместных монголо-российских военных учениях Селенга-2020. Октябрь 2020 года. Еще немного фотографий с учений
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Still works and still going to hurt on the receiving end.
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Yes, mind you a Sword used by Roman Legionaries still works fine and will be Bl***y painful