US spy plane crashes in SW Asia

mysterious

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US spy plane crashes in SW Asia

A US Air Force U-2 spy plane has crashed in south-west Asia killing the pilot, the US military has said.

The crash occurred at 2330 GMT on Tuesday, when the pilot was returning to base after completing a mission in support of US forces in Afghanistan.

A military spokesman said the location of the crash would not be released because of "host nation sensitivity".

The U-2 is a high-altitude surveillance aircraft first developed in the Cold War and manned by a single pilot.

Regional sensitivities

The cause of the crash is not known and US Central Command said a full investigation would be convened. The site of the crash has been secured to ensure the safety of local citizens and the integrity of the site for the investigation team, the statement said.


"The specific location is not releasable due to host nation sensitivities," US Air Force Capt David W Small, a Central Command spokesman, said.

Correspondents say south-west Asia is a phrase often used by the US military to refer to the Middle East.
The pilot's unit - the 380th Expeditionary Wing - is based at the Al-Dhafra air base, near Abu Dhabi, in the United Arab Emirates.

The name of the pilot will not be released until next of kin are informed.

"The airmen of the 380th Expeditionary Wing mourn the loss of a true American hero in the service of his country," Col Darryl Burke, the wing's commander, said in a statement.

The long, thin plane, with a wing-span of 100 feet (30.5m) is able to cruise at 90,000ft (27,430m) - more than 17 miles (27km) up - so high that the pilot has to wear a spacesuit.

Cold War stalwart

The U-2 was an invaluable US surveillance tool during the Cold War, able to photograph Soviet military facilities and operating in great secrecy out of Adana in Turkey - later renamed the Incirlik airbase.

In 1960 a U-2 was shot down by a volley of Soviet surface-to-air missiles. The pilot, Gary Powers, ejected but was captured and held for two years on spying charges.

It was also a U-2 that took the photographs of Soviet missiles being put into Cuba in October 1962.

Defence experts say the original U-2 aircraft were highly unsafe and 80-90% of them eventually crashed or were shot down.

But later versions, the U-2R and U-2S, though 40% bigger, are much more reliable.

Of the estimated 35 currently in service, five have crashed and another has been badly damaged.

One of the incidents involved a crash near the South Korean capital, Seoul, in 2003.

In that incident, the pilot managed to eject safely and suffered only minor injuries.
However, three people on the ground were wounded when the plane exploded as it hit a residential area in Hwasong City in Kyonggi province, damaging a house and car repair shop.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4119344.stm

This should be interesting! You dont find many American aircraft going down due to technical failures - specially spy planes. I'm thinking its the UAE where it has crashed while returning to its base or if it crashed before starting the return journey, it could be somewhere close to the Pak-Afghan border.

It is also critical that the data onboard the plane doesnt fall in to the wrong hands and things progress smoothly on the ground with the locals where this has taken place.

 

Red aRRow

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ajay_ijn said:
which country was U-2 Spying???
I don't think we will be hearing that anytime soon. It could be Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Afghan-Pak border region (for the elusive UBL), Syria (unlikely though).

The U-2 was an invaluable US surveillance tool during the Cold War, able to photograph Soviet military facilities and operating in great secrecy out of Adana in Turkey - later renamed the Incirlik airbase.
Weren't the Americans operating U2s out of Peshawar in Pakistan to spy on USSR too? I think USSR threatened Pakistan to destroy the whole city or something before the flights stopped.
 

mysterious

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I am at a lack of information as to the usage of Peshawar as a base for U2 missions during the USSR occupation of Afghanistan. As far as this piece of news goes, I think that the most likely target of this spy mission was the Pak-Afghan border because the article clearly mentions the fact that the plane was completing a mission in support of US forces in Afghanistan.

Its implying that the plane was possibly on the look-out for Taliban forces hiding in the mountainous region who have been responsible for the current upsurge in violence against the Afghanistan regime.

Then again, who knows, it just might be spying on Iran's nuclear facilities and the reason given in this article just might be a cover up.
 

ajay_ijn

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Weren't the Americans operating U2s out of Peshawar in Pakistan to spy on USSR too? I think USSR threatened Pakistan to destroy the whole city or
something before the flights stopped.
If there were U-2s placed in Peshawar during cold war then its obvious they will be used to spy on USSR.
 

kashifshahzad

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ajay_ijn said:
If there were U-2s placed in Peshawar during cold war then its obvious they will be used to spy on USSR.
Dear Pakistan has given bases but the bases given are not the main bases like Sarghodha,Karachi,Lahore,Islamabad,Peshawer etc i think the peshawer runway may not be given to the US forces during the cold war the people of that province reamined invaders they dont like much that other forigners should use their teritory so for security reasons the base must be situated at other places may be in the same province
 

kashifshahzad

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srirangan said:
I hear it was flying from Afghanistan to UAE. Or that's what they said. Prolly spying on Iran.
How can it be the spying on iran can be done from Pakistan then what was the need to take a long ruite just take off from a runway near PAK-IRAN boarder send pictures and then come back to the base simple if they we on that ruite which sri you have said then they might be doing spying on the other places too
 

pshamim

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ajay_ijn said:
If there were U-2s placed in Peshawar during cold war then its obvious they will be used to spy on USSR.
Yes it is true that the U-2s were stationed at PAF Air Base in Peshawar during the late 50s and very early 60s. I, as a F-86 pilot, was stationed in Peshawar also.The US used this base during the early years of the Cold War. Gary Powers, the American U-2 pilot shot down by the Soviets in 1960, had taken off from there.
 

ajay_ijn

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Yes it is true that the U-2s were stationed at PAF Air Base in Peshawar during the late 50s and very early 60s. I, as a F-86 pilot, was stationed in Peshawar also.The US used this base during the early years of the Cold War. Gary Powers, the American U-2 pilot shot down by the Soviets in 1960, had taken off from there.
Are u a Sabre Pilot?
 

pshamim

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ajay_ijn said:
If u don't mind can u say something about IAF Hunters and Gnats plz.

Did u ever had Dog fight with them.
Whatever, I may answer, will only touch the nerves on both sides of the spectrum and encourage flamers. I do not wish to do that.

Hunters, Gnats, and Sabres are part of the past. Let's forget about them and dicuss the the F-16s, SUs, Grippens, and Rafael. They belong to today and that is why I come to this forum. To learn.
 

pshamim

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The U-2 crashed in United Arab Emirates. Must be spying on Iran nuclear assetts.
 
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gf0012-aust

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pshamim said:
Whatever, I may answer, will only touch the nerves on both sides of the spectrum and encourage flamers. I do not wish to do that.
On behalf of the Mods, you have no idea how much we appreciate that kind of attitude.

Welcome to the forums.

:p:
 

kashifshahzad

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gf0012-aust said:
On behalf of the Mods, you have no idea how much we appreciate that kind of attitude.

Welcome to the forums.

:p:
Dear mod i really want to know what happened in the past i have read in books about the wars between the Pak and India but Pak tells its different story and the Indians tell the different i think it will be not a flaim bait .I think you must tell us what happened in the past :( i want to hear the past events plz describe other wise we will remain deprive of it
 

gf0012-aust

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kashifshahzad said:
Dear mod i really want to know what happened in the past i have read in books about the wars between the Pak and India but Pak tells its different story and the Indians tell the different i think it will be not a flaim bait .I think you must tell us what happened in the past :( i want to hear the past events plz describe other wise we will remain deprive of it
You apparently haven't worked out that this is not a negotiable position. It's not a public forum. It's a private forum and as such the Web exercises the right to run this as he sees fit.

We have worked long and hard on this website to ensure that we minimise the ugliness that tends to happen when people get passionate about politics. If you've been a long term member (and you aren't) then you'll know exactly what I am talking about.

If you wish to learn about the history, then find a history site, this is not a site to be immersed in political history.

Again, this is not a negotiable point. If you disagree with Webs policy then you can take it up with him. admin @ defencetalk.com

This does not require a further response. Any non topic related responses will be deleted where approp as per the forum rules.
 

umair

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kashifshahzad said:
Dear mod i really want to know what happened in the past i have read in books about the wars between the Pak and India but Pak tells its different story and the Indians tell the different i think it will be not a flaim bait .I think you must tell us what happened in the past :( i want to hear the past events plz describe other wise we will remain deprive of it
[First Kashif, DT got to where it's today by being a "no nonsense" forum. That means absolutely no talk of any kind which may incite flames. The basic reason for this rule is that patriotism is a strong emotion, it nurtures(pride) and it also hurts(when somebody insults that pride). And when it hurts, it leads to basically "flames, mine is bigger than you'rs and you suck, no you suck" type of competitions. This forum is meant to be a place for technical discussion and debate not a place where we come to show off our respective versions of history.
Secondly, it's Mr Shamim's personal perogerative wether he would like to discuss his experiences as a PAF pilot or not. I suggest that you pm him you'r request and leave it upto him to respond or not.
Lastly Mr Shamim, thank you for you'r response as it definitely saved us mods a lot of work. ;)
 

ajay_ijn

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pshamim said:
Gary Powers, the American U-2 pilot shot down by the Soviets in 1960, had taken off from there.
Was it the SA-2 SAM which shot down the Aircraft ???

By the way when will U-2 be retired, it has become so old more than 40 years.
I think high atltitude UAV Global hawk must take over the Job of the U-2.
 

A Khan

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Given the hype that has been around in the past decade or so regarding the developments in Satellite surveillance technology, i dont see why the U.S. is still using the U-2, could someone pls comment a bit on that? The weather is quite clear currently over the middle east, so shouldnt the Satellites be capable of producing as good pictures as the U2?

Was it the SA-2 SAM which shot down the Aircraft ???
Ajay_ijn, Does Iran have those?
 
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