Yeah, that should be the mission for the Large Surface Combatant.Maybe it is not envisioned as being part of a CSG. Who knows at this present point in time.
Yeah, that should be the mission for the Large Surface Combatant.Maybe it is not envisioned as being part of a CSG. Who knows at this present point in time.
Had the pleasure of working with a team of senior ABS surveyors several years ago, one of whom was also ex NAVSEA SUP SHIPS (USNs in house marine survey and quality organization), who all had recent experience of AB, Zumwalt and/ or LCS. The story they told me about the DDG-1000s stability was that in early tank testing they slammed it up the stern with an almost tsunami equivalent wave to see what would happen, the results were noted and the design adjusted, which is exactly why they do tank and model testing in the first place.
Anyone who honestly believes the USN would identify a problem in testing, long before any steel is cut, and then do nothing to fix it, probably needs to have a rethink. These days stability problems come from capability creep and the extra high up weight associated with it, or sadly from unqualified people trying to save money by insisting on sexing up a small platform rather than specifing a more suitably sized one in the first place, not from professionals developing new and innovative designs.
* not trying to tell anyone how to suck eggs, just trying fill in a bit for those who don't know shipbuilding
Well they pay all those congress critters, lawyers and lobbyists lots of money so now those people will have to start earning their donations (congress critters) and fees. The budget has yet to get past the White House and through Congress so basically anything goes at the moment.Apparently a UAV tanker along with more SHs and F-35s has a higher priority than UCLASS. NG must be pi$$ed.
Good-Bye, UCLASS; Hello, Unmanned Tanker, More F-35Cs In 2017 Budget « Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary
Well they pay all those congress critters, lawyers and lobbyists lots of money so now those people will have to start earning their donations (congress critters) and fees. The budget has yet to get past the White House and through Congress so basically anything goes at the moment.
I wonder if the cost and performance of this proposed "reduced stealth" tanker makes sense compared to SH equipped with conformational fuel tanks along with a maximum external fuel tank load. The new tanker would have to carry a much larger fuel load IMO to justify the likely higher price plus unlike the SH it is a one-trick pony.
Wrong attude John, this is a brilliant first step. Breaks down the introduction of large UAV into 2 main steps, take off/landing and refuelling. Both fundamental to more complex missions. It will be a decade or more before a UAV can do the roles of a manned fighter in congested or contested air space. UCLASS was very ambitious. This gets them started in the very complex carrier environment, and doing a task that is truly needed.
Pentagon to Navy: Convert UCLASS Program Into Unmanned Aerial Tanker, Accelerate F-35 Development, Buy More Super Hornets - USNI NewsI can't find the article but I recall reading that the Navy is effectively losing approximately half a dozen Super Hornets annually thru wear and tear performjng the air tanker mission. Releasing the jets from tanker duty and accelerating acquisition of new jets, preferably F-35C, is the way to go.
"...The Navy has long complained about the strain its Super Hornets are put under performing the tanking mission. Estimates provided to USNI News indicate 20 to 30 percent of Super Hornet sorties are tanking missions.
Despite the fatigue on the platform, the Navy has not sought to develop a new way to tank planes in a program of record before CBARS. For examples, the service has no plans to explore refueling aircraft from its planned Bell-Boeing V-22 carrier onboard delivery aircraft even though the Marines have a capability to refuel F/A-18s with their own MV-22 Ospreys...."
The US SECDEF has confirmed plans to add an offensive capabi,it's to the SM6. This will add a 200NM+ range and 3.5 Mach capabilities. Most importantly it will allow VLS capacity to be dual purpose for offensive and defensive warfare.
SECDEF Carter Confirms Navy Developing Supersonic Anti-Ship Missile for Cruisers, Destroyers - USNI News
VLS has long been capable of launching offensive missiles. Sea Sparrow, ESSM, SM2, RAM... all are capable of prosecuting surface threats.
Navy Upgrades Vertical Launch Systems |
SM-6 can do all roles (well kinda) in the one missile. Engage BM, engage air targets, engage anti-ship missiles, engage ships, strike land targets. It wasn't unexpected, as you pointed out most systems have a surface mode. Most likely OTH.
I wonder if this will be the final nail in the coffin for Harpoon.
I don't think so. It (ie. Harpoon) would fill a need for ships witnout VLS, specially in light of the Navy's Disrributed Lethality concept which envisions arming all sorts of ships other than CGs and DDGs. Boeing's offer of a new long-range networked Harpoon is attractive specially to a cash-strapped Navy when the advanced capabilities can be retrofitted to missiles already bought and paid for.