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Terran

Well-Known Member
Often times off the shelf is used to try and trim the fat and delay off a project. When this works it’s often as the parent product was already inline with the objective product. Example The Spearhead class. Its base is a car ferry they didn’t modify it far from that and the role it takes it more or less the same. It’s just instead of a Soccer Mom 4x4 it’s Stryker ICV 8x8s.

In the case of Constellation class that became a trap. The Navy didn’t want to have to go through the process of designing & Testing/qualifying a new hull. This forced the USN to pick based off existing hull designs that were built to completely different specifications. Even had they chosen the F100 frigate already equipped with Aegis systems this would have been the same outcome as the intended mission equipment is so fundamentally different. Ironically well trying to avoid the consequences of a new Hull they inflicted upon themselves the consequences of a new hull. A Catch 22.
 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
This article illustrates another impediment to defence acquisition, consultants. Not only a navy problem either, it is applicable to other departments and many governments worldwide. Nothing pollies like better than awarding their consultants plus it provides a convenient delay mechanism.

 

spoz

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
Firstly, they are not just contracted as consultants for this - what the author appears to overlook is that there is a lack of submarine building (and maintenance) capacity in the US at present, so there is no point in just ordering a boat which there is no capacity to build. This contract is seeking to address that. Secondly, Australia is providing quite a bit of capital to the US for this very purpose; and the amount seems about right; so it may not even be US $ that are paying.

Like so much of the commentary in the US at the moment this takes a fact, at least partiality out of context, and embroiders it for what are probably partisan purposes.
 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
Seems like the USN’s FA/XX 6th Gen fighter program is progressing and it will have a 6th Gen before the USAF…..maybe. Lots of questions, range, manned, unmanned or both, engine NGAP or something else, and at what cost? The other remaining big question, which vendor. LM and NG have major projects underway and Boeing….risky to say the least. My guess is NG as LM is likely betting on getting the USAF bid (albeit the delay the the USAF program may give LM more incentive to after the USN program).

 

seaspear

Well-Known Member
I've noticed with these drone ships there does not seem any stealth features like external tiling , this may come later of course .
 

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member
|"USS Chosin would later enter the Cruiser Modernization program at Vigor Shipyard in Washington in 2019. It returned to the fleet in 2024, with expected decommissioning by 2029.

Of that $4 billion total, $1.84 billion was spent on four cruisers that never returned to the fleet."|

A modernization program from 2019 to 2024, but decommissioning is planned for 2029, what a waste of money.


Seems that worldwide we can see failing modernization programs, planning that doesn't make sense, and mismanagement of such defence programs.
 

Rob c

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
In the article I read both the crew were rescued, one with minor injuries, the other ok. Somewhat of an embarrassment and I would not want to be the CO of the offending ship as in the USN they are usually held accountable for mistakes under them.
 

StobieWan

Super Moderator
Staff member
That could have been a lot worse - apparently the mishap aircraft was lead in a 3 ship formation approaching the rally point astern of the carrier when they were engaged. The second aircraft. 5 miles behind the first, also seems to have been engaged, with the missile falling into the sea. It's entirely possible that all 3 aircraft were to be engaged.

Also, kudos to the pilot for making the decision to leave the jet - that was a split second call in a very unusual situation.
 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
Countering China with new software instead of new ships is the suggestion in this article. Fair point about the the constrained time line for new ships by 2027. However, software and cyber technology requires programmers and engineers, something China has no shortage of. As has been recently shown, AI is progressing in China (DeepSeek) and their cyber espionage is formidable. Lots of progress on the quantum front as well.

To be ready for China in 2027, think new software, not ships: Navy tech officer - Breaking Defense
 

DDG38

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro

FormerDirtDart

Well-Known Member
USS Harry S Truman has apparently collided with a merchant vessel just north of the Suez canal traffic area. No details as to the cause yet.
USS Truman's Nuclear Propulsion System Safe After Ship Collision Off Egypt Coast, Navy Says
"What's going on with shipping" YT channel used marine tracker to visualise what happened :
Naval Disaster: USS Truman Collides Off Egyptian Coast | Bulk Carrier and US Aircraft Carrier
Impact appears to have occured aft of the starboard aft elevator.
Damage would appear to suggest both ships were moving generally in the same cardinal direction and CVN 75 overtook the merchant vessel, or they were moving in generally opposite intersecting directions. I state this because the damage is shown to be drawn rearward on the carrier.

Image courtesy of the US Navy
 
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