The Royal Navy Discussions and Updates

oldsig127 said:
Yes, well, it seems that at the political level at least, it's a done deal. I am amused that the ABC is reporting this on air as if it's imminent, apparently being unaware that the first of two "colossal carriers" is barely starting sea trials and her deployment at best a couple of years away

South China Sea: Britain to deploy 'colossal' warships to test Beijing's territorial claims - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

oldsig
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... and of course you couldn't just send an aircraft carrier ... they would have to send an entire task group. With destroyers, frigates, refuelers and possibly subs and maritime reconnaissance aircraft this would be a really major deployment.
 
This will be one of the RN's great challenges - to become a fleet accustomed to working in task forces instead of isolated ships - the group sent may be a composite group, composed of various nations but a UK carrier will be going to exercise right of navigation tasks in the Pacific.

It's going to be interesting but we'll have two carriers with 5G aircraft to bring along. Not both at the same time but that's one more carrier than almost any nation on the planet can bring.

Last I counted, there weren't a lot of countries that could sortie a carrier of any sorts, STOVL or CATOBAR.

I suspect developments will be watched closely.
 
StobieWan said:
This will be one of the RN's great challenges - to become a fleet accustomed to working in task forces instead of isolated ships - the group sent may be a composite group, composed of various nations but a UK carrier will be going to exercise right of navigation tasks in the Pacific.
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This is of course entirely true. I foresee the future RN carriers escorted by an RAN AWD and/or frigate as well as their own escorts and perhaps replenished by one of our new Calabrias or the new RNZN ship while in our area, and with attachments from other navies in their back yards. It's not hard to imagine her with Japanese, Singaporean or South Korean consorts either

oldsig
 
oldsig127 said:
This is of course entirely true. I foresee the future RN carriers escorted by an RAN AWD and/or frigate as well as their own escorts and perhaps replenished by one of our new Calabrias or the new RNZN ship while in our area, and with attachments from other navies in their back yards. It's not hard to imagine her with Japanese, Singaporean or South Korean consorts either

oldsig
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Yep. If they do send Queen Lizzie to the Pacific, expect an all-singing all-dancing spectacle. Britain will be keen to fly the flag among friends, allies and potential customers, so I would expect a comprehensive programme of port visits and bilateral exercises. At a minimum, I'd expect visits to Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Australia, with Malaysia, China and several others as strong possibilities.
 
MrConservative said:
At one stage there were going to be 12, then 8 Type 45's and that dwindled to six to replace the 16 Type 42's.
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16 Type 42s includes the two built for Argentina. 14 were built for the RN but we never had more than 12, as two were sunk before the last six were commissioned.
 
40 deg south said:
Yep. If they do send Queen Lizzie to the Pacific, expect an all-singing all-dancing spectacle. Britain will be keen to fly the flag among friends, allies and potential customers, so I would expect a comprehensive programme of port visits and bilateral exercises. At a minimum, I'd expect visits to Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Australia, with Malaysia, China and several others as strong possibilities.
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It's a big stick to hold and I suspect we'll get a lot of support from the US as they're short on carriers and potentially we could fill a cap - the QE's are not equivalent to a Nimitz in any sense of the word but they could plug a deployment gap for one in some situations.

Now, if we'd just spring for CEC, I'd sleep easier.
 
This turned up in my face ache news feed today, from Navy News...

[nomedia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47m6CqEnndw[/nomedia]

"GLIDING gracefully through Japan’s Kanmon Strait to Yokosuka for a brief pit stop, this is the second of four super-tankers built to support Britain’s Fleet of tomorrow.
RFA Tiderace has begun her epic six-week journey from South Korea to Falmouth – via Hawaii and the Panama Canal – to begin her conversion from 39,000-tonne tanker into 39,000-tonne military tanker.
All four ships in the Tide class – -spring, -race, -force and –surge – are being built at the DSME yard in Okpo-dong, before heading to the UK and the A&P yard in Falmouth to receive ‘plug and play’ weaponry such as Phalanx automated guns, secure communications and computer systems.
Once in service, she will provide fuel and other supplies to Britain’s new aircraft carriers – as well as the rest of the Fleet and NATO warships.
Of the quartet, Tidespring is on trials off the South Coast and Tideforce has recently begun her sea trials in South Korea.
Video courtesy of jinmei.jp"
 
Given the current situation on the Korean Peninsula, the sooner the other Tide class ships arrive the better. BTW, a great deal compared to Canada's decision to build AORs in Canada based on Germany's Berlin design.:(
 
Good news. Those in the 'hood might wish to mentally prepare for the boat's entry by generously self-medicating at the Sally Port pub before wandering over the the water for a lookee lookee.

Further, the strains and exhaustion of having witnessed the entry could require further self-medication later on.

Just sayin'

:D :cool:

Update: Erk! Just Googled the Sally Port, and it seems the old girl is closed for a long tarting-up job. Right then, Pompey medicators will just have to find somewhere else.
 
Systems Adict said:
This turned up in my face ache news feed today, from Navy News...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47m6CqEnndw

"GLIDING gracefully through Japan’s Kanmon Strait to Yokosuka for a brief pit stop, this is the second of four super-tankers built to support Britain’s Fleet of tomorrow.
RFA Tiderace has begun her epic six-week journey from South Korea to Falmouth – via Hawaii and the Panama Canal – to begin her conversion from 39,000-tonne tanker into 39,000-tonne military tanker.
All four ships in the Tide class – -spring, -race, -force and –surge – are being built at the DSME yard in Okpo-dong, before heading to the UK and the A&P yard in Falmouth to receive ‘plug and play’ weaponry such as Phalanx automated guns, secure communications and computer systems.
Once in service, she will provide fuel and other supplies to Britain’s new aircraft carriers – as well as the rest of the Fleet and NATO warships.
Of the quartet, Tidespring is on trials off the South Coast and Tideforce has recently begun her sea trials in South Korea.
Video courtesy of jinmei.jp"
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That's actually a pretty good looking tanker :)
 
DaveS124 said:
Good news. Those in the 'hood might wish to mentally prepare for the boat's entry by generously self-medicating at the Sally Port pub before wandering over the the water for a lookee lookee.

Further, the strains and exhaustion of having witnessed the entry could require further self-medication later on.

Just sayin'

:D :cool:
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As a further update, the 'self-medicators' will need to be up with the larks', as she arrives at 7.10 am !
 
Yeah - I did have some hopes of making a Friday date but bringing this forward blows that one away - I'll have to watch it on TV like the rest of the plebs.
 
Systems Adict said:
As a further update, the 'self-medicators' will need to be up with the larks', as she arrives at 7.10 am !
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No problem. There must be a late night boozer somewhere in Pompey. Just remember to stagger out at first light to see her faffing around in the Solent.

Sunrise 05.53.

Elsewhere this has been posted:

QHM Portsmouth movements sheet has the following for tomorrow.
0445 - Tugs to sea
0500 - Local Notice to Mariners 47/17 (QE Transit) in force.
0545 - EXPLOIT to sea.
0545 - QUEEN ELIZABETH proceeding from Nab to Outer Spit buoy with pilot and tug escort.
0615 - Main channel and small boat channel closed.
0645 - QUEEN ELIZABETH to proceed from Outer Spit Buoy to Princess Royal Jetty, bows north.
0730 - Small boat channel to reopen.
0815 - Main channel to reopen.
 
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