The race is on- in Switzerland

wimpymouse

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Then perhaps you need to discus it in context.

Stress loadings on a sub at depth or a mach 2.8 air breathing system as compared to downhill riding.

I wonder which has greater stress loadings
Ehh no, I don't. I took your word for it in my last post. Reread it please, this is getting ridiculous.

Admin: It was a rhetorical question and against the issue of context. I wasn't being sarcastic.
 

barra

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The Hornet was strengthen so the Landbased Hornet could pull 9G's vs 7.5G's for the Naval Version. I guess flying around Mountains may have something to do with it..........:cool:
As crusader2000 suggests, I was thinking along these lines as the reason for the airframe strengthening.

BTW does pulling G's at altitude around the valleys and mountains of the Swiss Alps constitute low level flying??? Seems to be bit of a paradox flying at xx,000ft and yet at close proximity to the ground. Can someone enlighten me?
 

barra

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They were rejected initially as potential replacements for our own Hornets prior to the centre barrel solution. IIRC the HUG assessment team spent some time in Switzerland looking at whether we should do a straight buy out rather than HUG some frames.
and to quote gf0012-aust,
"That would mean that someone has changed the software as well, as the Frame Stress alert kicks in at 7-7.5g.

If not, that woman will be nagging them between 7-9g all the time..."


I'll bet they spent some time in Switzerland doing an assessment, tough life for some. From what I have heard from the RAAF techos at China Lake the Swiss Hornets are in excellent condition, i.e better than ours. Maybe they didn't want to sell?

As for bitching Betty, a software update would sort her bitchin out....:D
 
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wimpymouse

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Ehh no, I don't. I took your word for it in my last post. Reread it please, this is getting ridiculous.

Admin: It was a rhetorical question and against the issue of context. I wasn't being sarcastic.
Oh good, we fight enough already.

Admin: I have no interest in having arguments just because an opportunity exists. All of us (Mods) do this voluntarily and have to juggle it with homelife and real paying jobs - so time on here should be as pleasurable as possible. If we didn't enjoy it we'd chuck it in.



EDIT: Agree.
 
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the road runner

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QUOTE:-The Great Book of Modern Warplanes,edited by Mick Spick

"Switzerland was impressed with the docile handling and superb radar/avionics which is felt was suitable for operations in such a mountainous country ,but then paused to re-evaluate.After some considerable delay,the first Swiss hornet arrived in 1996,and No16 Squadron was commissioned that year at Payerne.
Swiss F/A-18C/D Models ,powered by F404-GE-402 engines are virtually straight off the shelf,but with a couple of unusual modifications.In Switzerland the Hornet is used for Air Defence only ,and their aircraft are thus devoid of air-to-surface kit.But the ensuing weight savings were eaten up by the use of titanium fuselage bulkheads instead of aluminium alloy,which increases airframe life by another 2000 hours.The Swiss are not known for rapid aircraft replacement,and thus look like a typical example of Helvetian thrift.Almost certainly the Swiss will still be operating Hornets in 2030,long after they have been retired elsewhere
The ALQ-165 ASPJ is fitted ,which implies more faith in the systems than the US services had(another bargain?),while the use of liquid oxygen,regarded as a hazard in tunnel shelters,has been replaced by an ON-Board Oxygen Generation Systems(OBOGS)."


Hope the above quote can help. Its intresting how the Author Implies that the Swiss will still be operating Hornets in 2030.I guess time will tell.The author also states that the OBOGS replaces liquid oxygen as it is a hazard in tunnel shelters implying that the F18 are parked in Tunnel shelters.Intresting,what do you guys think?
 
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