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Video from US Army on exercise Super Garuda Shield. Exercise that begin decades ago between US and Indonesia, now already enlarge to 13 other participants. Mostly in the region. The video put quite time on MLRS exercise with US Himars and TNI Astros II (Army) and Vampire (Marines).
Wrong Hind photo though, Indonesian army operate the P variant, with twin Gsh-30-2 30mm on the side of the cockpit, not the chin mounted Yak-B 12,7mm shown on the photo above.
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As far as i know 16 Mi-17V5 and 5 Mi-35P were delivered.
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Prototype of local build MLRS using local build 122mm rocket (RHan). Will see if this going to be stay on Prototype stage, or move to production. However compared to previous local MLRS proto, this one seems more serious build.
Using KAMAZ truck as base, it is also quite shown typical Russia-East Euro MLRS similarities.
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Looks like a KamAZ 63501, a highly capable 8×8 with a 16.000 kg payload and a 11.760 cc V8 engine.
It is remarkable that they didn't bought the Tatra 815 (which is also used for the RM-70), to make logistics, training and maintenance easier. Maybe the KamAZ is cheaper, or the Korps Marinir already had some unused ones on stock.
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Perhaps because KAMAZ actually has better presences in Indonesia commercial market then Tatra. This means their supply chain support supposedly provide better network then Tatra.
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From FB account id Markicap shown photos of domestic MLRS prototype using KAMAZ truck and RHAN 122b rockets. This is the trial for launcher system, as the rocket it self already ready for production.
Rumours talk that the final decision on production whether using KAMAZ or TATRA trucks is not final yet.
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TNI pastikan 105 Batalyon Teritorial Pertempuran sudah terbangun
Kepala Dinas Penerangan TNI AD (Kadisenad) Kolonel (Inf) Donny Pramono mengatakan sejauh ini, pihaknya sudah membangun 105 Batalyon Teritorial Pertempuran ...
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This plan for 750 batalyon of Development Teritorial command (with 105 already establish), more and more in my opinion resemble Russian National Guard concept. The difference it is still under TNI-AD. However the duties more or less border control, internal security, but also added civilian development projects support. Related tp either Agriculture, Livestock Farm, Infrastructure Project. All related of what be call food security initiative.
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I just wonder, these 105 new batalyons, are these created from current active personnel, or do these units consist of brand new recruits?TNI pastikan 105 Batalyon Teritorial Pertempuran sudah terbangun
Kepala Dinas Penerangan TNI AD (Kadisenad) Kolonel (Inf) Donny Pramono mengatakan sejauh ini, pihaknya sudah membangun 105 Batalyon Teritorial Pertempuran ...
This plan for 750 batalyon of Development Teritorial command (with 105 already establish), more and more in my opinion resemble Russian National Guard concept. The difference it is still under TNI-AD. However the duties more or less border control, internal security, but also added civilian development projects support. Related tp either Agriculture, Livestock Farm, Infrastructure Project. All related of what be call food security initiative.
As far as i know, Indonesian batalyons have around 500 to 800 persons, so suddenly adding around 80.000 to the current amount of more than 300.000 TNI-personnel, that's a lot.
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Rekrutmen Tamtama Besar-besaran untuk Batalyon Teritorial Pembangunan
TNI AD akan merekrut 24.000 tamtama untuk mendukung pembangunan masyarakat di seluruh Indonesia.
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At least 24000 new recruitmen for ground soldiers level this year alone. For non officer staff and officer I believe they are taking from existing inventory. TNI already known to produce more officers then needed. Some talk this teritorial development batalions, new fleet commands, and upgrading Air Bases being build also to give more command structures for those surplus officers. Well it provide more infantry coverages, teritorial control, and provide career opportunity and employment.
My concern with this policy is that this is just rewarding the military for the overcapacity of officers, and they won't change to reduce the rate they produce officer in the future. Not only it made it harder to modernize the whole armed forces, it also adds political weight to the military as well. Indonesia is a democracy now (albeit flawed), but I'm worried with the leadership now glamorizing Soeharto era, and encroaching influence of the military more and more to the civilian sector, we're gonna flip to Myanmar 2.0.
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Even at the hight of Soeharto era, we are not Military Junta. Soeharto just like Soekarno is Dictactors with all powers circle around them. It is not Junta, and the insurgencies even with the hight of Aceh and East Timor (Soeharto) are far below PRRI/PERMESTA days (Soekarno). Today insurgencies in Papua is child plays compare to them.
My point internal insurgencies matter are more benign as years go by. However this Teritorial Development is part government and TNI effort to shown their presences in outer islands and borders area. If this is consider reminisences of Soeharto era, could be so. However the governments after Soeharto are populis and compromistic by nature. They are also see the increasing rebirth of nostalgia movement from publics that fed up with "reformasi" movement and want to have some "more" semblance of subsidy support just as the time of new order.
TNI development being accepted so far because public also fed up with Police track record to handle internal security, Criminal negligances on matter of online gambling and drug enforcement. They want TNI to shadow Police behaviour. We can see with last demonstration where many youth attacking polices but mostly stay calm in front off TNI Soldiers. All this shown goverment that are populis in nature and exploit public sentiments.
There are those who are vocal to TNI enlarge presences in Public domain. However if most publics support TNI enlarge presences, then the government will take advantage of public sentiments. This is what politicians do in most democratic nations, take advantage and try to influences of public moods, for their political goals. Politicians are corrupt by nature in most nations in the world, because they seek power. We are accepting them, even realises their lies, because the alternatives either chaos, or back to Dictactors era. Mind you the second alternative has increase acceptance from those who are frustrated with democracy.
My point internal insurgencies matter are more benign as years go by. However this Teritorial Development is part government and TNI effort to shown their presences in outer islands and borders area. If this is consider reminisences of Soeharto era, could be so. However the governments after Soeharto are populis and compromistic by nature. They are also see the increasing rebirth of nostalgia movement from publics that fed up with "reformasi" movement and want to have some "more" semblance of subsidy support just as the time of new order.
TNI development being accepted so far because public also fed up with Police track record to handle internal security, Criminal negligances on matter of online gambling and drug enforcement. They want TNI to shadow Police behaviour. We can see with last demonstration where many youth attacking polices but mostly stay calm in front off TNI Soldiers. All this shown goverment that are populis in nature and exploit public sentiments.
There are those who are vocal to TNI enlarge presences in Public domain. However if most publics support TNI enlarge presences, then the government will take advantage of public sentiments. This is what politicians do in most democratic nations, take advantage and try to influences of public moods, for their political goals. Politicians are corrupt by nature in most nations in the world, because they seek power. We are accepting them, even realises their lies, because the alternatives either chaos, or back to Dictactors era. Mind you the second alternative has increase acceptance from those who are frustrated with democracy.
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Uji tembak MLRS ARJUNA ( peluncur R-HAN 122B ) #roket #mlrs #madeinindonesia #tnial #military
Jumat Full senyum Uji tembak MLRS ARJUNA ( peluncur R-HAN 122B )hasil kerja sama PT DAHANA & PT SAS aero#roket #mlrs #rhan #madeinindonesia #ujicoba #ma...
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Better video for MLRS Arjuna trials. At least from exterior it is already shown similarities with Czech, China and Russia 122mm MLRS.
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E-System Solutions Qualifies DART MPAS for Indonesia Army | Habib Boukharouba posted on the topic | LinkedIn
E-System Solutions DART Multi Purpose Ammunition Systems E-System Solutions Group of Companies, through its subsidiaries, Tactical Precision LLC, Electronic Precision LLC and PT E-System Solutions Indonesia, is proud to announce the full qualification of DART Multi Purpose Ammunition Systems...
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E-System Solutions, a Defense company base in Dubai shown their DART guided rocket that according to their CEO will be build in Indonesia. The production will be done with their JV E-System Solutions Indonesia. This is 61mm guided individual use rocket that will be equip TNI infantry batalions.
While state owned munition company PT. Dahana and local Private defense contractor PT. Hariff Defense shown in their Instagram the prototype of Anti Tank Guided Rocket.
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UAE EDGE Defense Group and Indonesia Republikorp Defense Group sign agreement to build JV for defense production. Initial project being talk up to USD 7 Bio. The Edge design that being talk going to be produce is Skyknight anti saturation defense and Rabdan 8x8 IFV. Rabdan it self at this moment using BMP3 turret, and already speculate in Indonesia it is going to be use by Marines.
Republikorp shown strings of JV commitment from DRASS for Midget Submarine, Roketsan for Missile to EDGE for mostly Land Base system, including UAV. This in line with Government direction for JV as part of MIC Investment between local MIC and mature MIC partners.
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Di Momentum G20, PT Dahana-RDM Sepakati Pembangunan Fasilitas Energetic Material di Indonesia
PT Dahana menandatangani Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) strategis dengan raksasa industri pertahanan Rheinmetall Denel Munition (RDM) untuk pembangunan ...
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Indonesia SOE Munition producer Dahana sign Agreement with South Africa Rheinmetall Denel Munition (RDM) for Tech Transfer on Energetic Materials facility that Dahana going to build. This going to compliment Dahana existing facilities like Nitro Gliserin, Ammonium Nitrat and Propelan plants. Dahana doing strategy on several tech partners from West and East Europe and now South Africa (all though Rheinmetall subsidiaries).
This too improve domestic munitions materials supply chains, this reducing amunition import dependence on production cycles.
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Few days ago, Keris FB put this slide that they say coming from TNI-AD Field Artilery command session. The slide shown what's already in Inventory (blue line)and what's still in Planning (yellow line).
Roketsan Tayfun is enlarge version of Khan, and can be launch using existing TEL. However this Avibras Astros TCM is the big question. Considering now Avibras on financial trouble. Avibras already for some time offering this Cruise Missile project to Indonesia, as it is can launch using existing Astros II TEL.
Remain to be seen with present condition on Avibras, can this cruise missile project still have future. The Artilery Command studies still put it, but I have doubt the project can still move on.