Tackling Alien Attack

[old faithful]

if aliens attack us, it will be for our own good. they will over throw our opressive governments, and replace them with governments THEY like. Introduce us to new music and culture from their home land, and open up a sting of intergalactic fast food chains, and intergalictic cola drinks...

we will then fight them for years, calling our selves ThELP...The Earth Liberation Party or something like that, and attack them while they are at their most vunarable, with suicide attacks etc etc etc...

 

[crobato]

I was thinking of something you can use that sounds technologically plausible like say, you can use to write science fiction.

Lets say the invading alien species isn't as God like advanced. Assuming their technologies are not that advanced, their characters should be more Darwinistic and petty, rather than aloof, godlike or omnipotent.

Even against an alien species of lesser caliber, human kind faces a distinct disadvantage of physics. Alien kind can wipe out all our satellites one by one, then ring the world with their own. A variety of projectiles and beams can be rained upon our cities, stationary bases, even our aircraft carriers. An entire CVBG can be vaporized if something like the Tunguska explosion happens right on top of it. So will our concept of conventional warfare, just like that.

Escaping from death from the sky, humankind quickly spreads away from the centralized population centers and goes underground. Or underwater. There goes factories as well. We launch fighters using underground catapults, and if they land, it would have to be vertical, and for fighters we will probably rely more and more on robotic UCAVs than human controlled ones. We gradually move away from larger surface ships, to smaller and faster surface ships playing a game of naval asymmetric warfare, and to submarines where we launch our counterattacks with a flood of ballistic anti-orbital missiles from SSBNs. Those on the ground surface fight a guerrilla war, often using low tech weapons that can be mass produced under technologically challenged conditions, like RPGs, IEDs and AK-47s and using whatever devices that have survived the onslaught like cars and SUVs.

 

[Jissy]

actually,
the best and simplest method initially, would be to send rockets loaded with ball bearings to detonate at differing levels around orbit, then anything coming into our world will get drilled by a million ballbearings, it would also work against 'them' setting up their own satellites...as long as we get to the launch part...

 

[Ibizan Hound]

Hopefully, this answer you question

How well are our air forces prepared and equipped to counter Alien Space and air attacks..(In case they attack..)
I think it is perfectly ok to discuss it for educative purposes...
The the probability of an alien encounter is real and as good as the probability of nuclear exchange between the two superpowers...
Please dont think this as a crazy thread...we have to prepare for everything if we want to survive as a species in the long term...

US Warplanes Repel ‘Mysterious’ Attack On Washington D.C.


A most curious report from Russian Space Forces (VKS) circulating in the Kremlin today states that over 75 United States Air Force Warplanes engaged in a battle off the Eastern Coast of the US to repel 5 ‘unidentified’ aircraft said streaking towards their capital city of Washington D.C. at Mach 1 speeds and which saw the loss of 2 US Fighter Jets of as yet ‘unknown’ type.

Russia’s Space Command constantly monitors US Air Force activities over North America from which this report derives from, but which has been further confirmed by reports emanating from the United States today, and as we can read:

The Raptor was a CASUALTY in the 1st battle in Muroc(Edwards Airforce Base) in the previous battle.

 

[Misguided Fool]

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Tachyon.html

IF tachyons exist, not only can aliens travel to us at way faster than the speed of light, but they can also go back in time to change us without even realising!

For all we know, our hands might be a strange perversion of a 11 fingered 2 poisonous jabber structure that existed before it was evilly perverted by these time travelling aliens!

We really have no way to escape our fate, as even committing mass suicide won't stop us becoming slaves to the infinite powah of the alien invaders, as they could go back in time and stop it happening!

We have to sit and wait. Be prepared. The time will come for the defense of our glorious planet, and even though regardless of what we do, we'll become slaves, it will be fun.

 

[Jissy]

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Tachyon.html

IF tachyons exist, not only can aliens travel to us at way faster than the speed of light, but they can also go back in time to change us without even realising!

For all we know, our hands might be a strange perversion of a 11 fingered 2 poisonous jabber structure that existed before it was evilly perverted by these time travelling aliens!

We really have no way to escape our fate, as even committing mass suicide won't stop us becoming slaves to the infinite powah of the alien invaders, as they could go back in time and stop it happening!

We have to sit and wait. Be prepared. The time will come for the defense of our glorious planet, and even though regardless of what we do, we'll become slaves, it will be fun.

Unless, of course, we are taken over by a gigantic intergalactic fast food company, and "human slushies' become the new interstellar rage!
Glug Glug!

Now, I wonder, those who say, "I for one welcome the new overlords" would say about that development?

And while I toy with this hypothesis, in an imaginative way; why would any human believe the assurances of an alien race; that our species will be protected, particularly during a possible mass extinction event?

Surely, that would be the easiest ploy to use? They fool us into providing them with safe Earth bound harbour, by sharing some of their technology and the promise that they will save a limited amount of humans...(from the upcoming 'naturally occuring' mass extinction event). Not a bad ploy, as it avoids widespread and constant 'run ins' with our (comparatively) low tech but still dangerous weaponry and allows 'them', (lets call them "Greys" or "EBEs"), to clear the planet without pesky resistance?

cheers and pleasant dreams...

 

[swift240]

If this happened

How well are our air forces prepared and equipped to counter Alien Space and air attacks..(In case they attack..)
I think it is perfectly ok to discuss it for educative purposes...
The the probability of an alien encounter is real and as good as the probability of nuclear exchange between the two superpowers...
Please dont think this as a crazy thread...we have to prepare for everything if we want to survive as a species in the long term...

Right for one, if such a thing was to take place upon our Earth, then there are a few things that has not come up before like:-

1. Aliens would be far more advanced than us.
2. There tecknology would be far superior.
3. They would not be afraid of any kind of nuclear weapon that we have.
4. I expect that we would be subject to a weapon that we have no idea of or how to prevent its distruction against us.
5. We would no doubt have the world unite and humans being good at what we do, we would result to every dirty low down tactic we could think of.
6. Do we fight to the end providing we can do so?
7. Will other countries lay down arms to a greater superior force, in the hope they would be spared?
8. This is when the greatest idea's come out when our back are up against the wall as in WW2.
9. What are the chances of another Alien race coming along to protect us, has any one thought of that?
10. The alien's that may attack are they a despised species by others in the universe?
11. What do they want? us out of the way?
12. Do they need a few of us left for any reason?
13. What is the chances of us winning? taking into account human endurance and the human spirit.
14. Would the world forces give up after the first initial attack?
15. There would be some underground resistance, I for one would join that.
16. Would we use nuclear weapons knowing that is the most powerful weapon to date that we have, in the hope we would do some real damage to them.
17. Who is the churches of the world going to blame? where would there God be then?
18. Is there a God then would we be taught a tuff lesson on this Earth to all pull together for a change instead of fighting each other?
19. For all we know and its not open, but we may already be in touch with aliens of some kind already on or under this Earth.
20. If we are then it may not be going our way, as we would want.
21. If we are then it may not be going the way THEY want.
22. If the day does ever come while I am alive, then I would attempt to get over the shock of it, and join an underground resistance of some kind.
23. Have we actually thought it may be the sort of attack where we all go in one blow.
24. I know full well this has been talked about in many countries by many armed forces, what is there way to handle this?
25. There would be a world break down on social behavior.
26. The churches over night would lose all power.
27. I fully expect this has already been talked about and there are already bunkers under ground for such an event, and not just nuclear war from other countries.
28. There would be mass suicide's from cults all over the world
29. You would not go around the streets like normal.
30 The chances of us actually surviving will be in the hands of fate, and then hopefully we will have some sort of destiny on this Earth. But a better one that we have now.

Mike.

 

[swift240]

Putting the usual 'hilarity response' aside, this is a serious question for all of mankind.
Firstly, to imagine that we are the only 'intelligent' beings in the universe is far more laughable than to consider that there are many alien races technologically far superior to our own.

The history of science is littered with blinkered, insular and short sighted bigoted views which, after proper scientific study have been proved wrong, like the "flat Earth" theory, for one.

I posit the following arguments;

We are not alone.
We are not the most technologically advanced.
We are in contact with Alien races.
The general public is subjected to disinformation policies.

Evidence: I have seen two UFOs at very close range, with witnesses.

At least two astronauts have publically declared they know Alien UFOs exist.
I have seen NASA film of UFO interaction with a space shuttle in orbit and film of a NASA mission in orbit where the astronaut shows what is out the porthole, and it isn't one of ours!

Add to this;
the Brazil and French governments have opened there once closed files on UFOs, and now there is an international effort currently at work, involving ex-NASA, ex-military, scientists and other government officials who are publically demanding governments tell the public what they already now, that being, we ARE ALREADY IN CONTACT.

Finally,
think of this;
if you were a technologically far superior race, visiting a far inferior one still developing, wouldn't you carefully and slowly exammine the new race, while trying to keep a low profile? And, if the Alien presence was war minded, what better way to conquer, (if that was the intention), than to quietly assimilate, by co-evolution and cross breeding, rather than opening up a constant global conflict, all the while appeasing the governments in the most powerful positions globally by handing out some technology?

Finally, the greatest danger is to believe the disinformation, and treat it all as a joke.

My prediction; we will all know, for sure, in the coming few years, as nations break ranks with the USA, and reveal the truth.

When it happens, don't be afraid, remember, they have not just arrived, they have been here a very long time!

I reply to the line that you typed "We are not alone"

I fully agree with you, I see it this way:-

It is mathematically impossible for us "HumanRace" to be the only life form in the entire universe.
If we exist then we can not rule out any other life form can we?

Are we so arrogant as to believe we are?

Mike.

 

[Gremlin29]

I don't discount the possibility of life "out there" somewhere, I'm convinced of it. That being said, I don't think "they" are coming here. Of the countless billions of potential galaxies to consider for exploration, ours is so small and in the corner of the known universe it is highly unlikely an intelligent race would choose our dim little corner as the best prospect for finding life....that's just my opinon.

As for UFO sightings, there are plenty of them. The operative word being Unidentified. Just because an object is unidentifiable hardly means it's alien. Why would an alien craft emit visible light at night? The only reason our aircraft have lights is so that they can see each other to avoid collision. The military doesn't fly around with lights on in a tactical situation, why would these supreme beings do so if they are trying to be stealthy? And with the millions, perhaps 100's of millions of sightings why have we yet to see unquestionable photographic evidence of all these spaceships? I'm just saying....

UFO's go in the same chapter of my book as bigfoot, the yeti, mermaids, ghosts and the Loch Ness monster.

 

[old faithful]

I don't discount the possibility of life "out there" somewhere, I'm convinced of it. That being said, I don't think "they" are coming here. Of the countless billions of potential galaxies to consider for exploration, ours is so small and in the corner of the known universe it is highly unlikely an intelligent race would choose our dim little corner as the best prospect for finding life....that's just my opinon.

As for UFO sightings, there are plenty of them. The operative word being Unidentified. Just because an object is unidentifiable hardly means it's alien. Why would an alien craft emit visible light at night? The only reason our aircraft have lights is so that they can see each other to avoid collision. The military doesn't fly around with lights on in a tactical situation, why would these supreme beings do so if they are trying to be stealthy? And with the millions, perhaps 100's of millions of sightings why have we yet to see unquestionable photographic evidence of all these spaceships? I'm just saying....

UFO's go in the same chapter of my book as bigfoot, the yeti, mermaids, ghosts and the Loch Ness monster.

shouldnt be to hard to defend against their "high tech weather balloon type craft"!
I agree that their is probably life out there, bacteria,plant life, maybe even human, but I dont believe that they are visiting us....

 

[Jissy]

I reply to the line that you typed "We are not alone"

I fully agree with you, I see it this way:-

It is mathematically impossible for us "HumanRace" to be the only life form in the entire universe.
If we exist then we can not rule out any other life form can we?

Are we so arrogant as to believe we are?

Mike.

Quite right Mike,
it is supreme arrogance to suggest we are the only life form capable of technological advancement.

I am firmly of the belief that we have been in direct contact with other races for many years. And as for the nay sayers here, there are a great many scientists and military, even astronauts, who support this view .

There is plenty of film available for scrutiny, and as I have stated before, some of this film was shot by astronauts and military. Just for the record, a UFO is indeed stating that something "unidentified" has been seen. But that title also means, all possible 'earthly' explanation for the recorded craft has eliminated, hence the 'unidentified' moniker.

Around eight to ten percent of all still film and photography of alleged UFO craft cannot be explained and also passes all the tests for validity, (not faked). Observations of these unusual craft entail not just their unusual appearance and lack of exothermic thrust, but their silent motion, incredible acceleration, agility and speed.

These days, many of these sightings may well prove to be highly top secret military craft. However, more and more scientists, astronauts and other government specialists claim there is an alien race presence and we are in contact.

cheers

jissy

 

[swift240]

Quite right Mike,
it is supreme arrogance to suggest we are the only life form capable of technological advancement.

I am firmly of the belief that we have been in direct contact with other races for many years. And as for the nay sayers here, there are a great many scientists and military, even astronauts, who support this view .

There is plenty of film available for scrutiny, and as I have stated before, some of this film was shot by astronauts and military. Just for the record, a UFO is indeed stating that something "unidentified" has been seen. But that title also means, all possible 'earthly' explanation for the recorded craft has eliminated, hence the 'unidentified' moniker.

Around eight to ten percent of all still film and photography of alleged UFO craft cannot be explained and also passes all the tests for validity, (not faked). Observations of these unusual craft entail not just their unusual appearance and lack of exothermic thrust, but their silent motion, incredible acceleration, agility and speed.

These days, many of these sightings may well prove to be highly top secret military craft. However, more and more scientists, astronauts and other government specialists claim there is an alien race presence and we are in contact.

cheers

jissy

Well I wander what the reasoning is for the world governments to deny there existance is?
It would be a better idea to educate the rest of us witht the truth that yes they are indeed here and have been for a while we are in contact and this is the reason for it.

But no they keep us all like we are to stupid to understand the truth.
If it is a reason that they don't want to rock the boat then I suppose I can understand that.

but lets face it they cant keep this under wraps for ever and ever.
At some point it will be known world wide then what?

Well lets look at it this way shall we :-

1. They either will do us harm
2. They will not do us harm

3. The governments right now are doing some sort of deal for tecknology.
4. We are all on a need to know basis and we DONT need to know.
5. Has the governments put them selv's on such an arrogant level that they think they can handle any thing?

6. I really do believe that they wont be able to keep the lid on this for ever.
7. Are they scared of a backlash from the rest of us, when we find out we know?
8. Well when it all does come out I think the Catholic church will see a sudden downfall, perhaps more truth will come out than THEY want.

On a personal level I have had certain experiences in my life as to know myself that aliens do exist, but my big mistake was to tell some one only to find I was laughed at and made to look a total fool at the end of it, yes ignorance is rife.

Mike.

 

[Jissy]

Well I wander what the reasoning is for the world governments to deny there existance is?
It would be a better idea to educate the rest of us witht the truth that yes they are indeed here and have been for a while we are in contact and this is the reason for it.

But no they keep us all like we are to stupid to understand the truth.
If it is a reason that they don't want to rock the boat then I suppose I can understand that.

but lets face it they cant keep this under wraps for ever and ever.
At some point it will be known world wide then what?

Well lets look at it this way shall we :-

1. They either will do us harm
2. They will not do us harm

3. The governments right now are doing some sort of deal for tecknology.
4. We are all on a need to know basis and we DONT need to know.
5. Has the governments put them selv's on such an arrogant level that they think they can handle any thing?

6. I really do believe that they wont be able to keep the lid on this for ever.
7. Are they scared of a backlash from the rest of us, when we find out we know?
8. Well when it all does come out I think the Catholic church will see a sudden downfall, perhaps more truth will come out than THEY want.

On a personal level I have had certain experiences in my life as to know myself that aliens do exist, but my big mistake was to tell some one only to find I was laughed at and made to look a total fool at the end of it, yes ignorance is rife.

Mike.

Mike,
I suspect a lot of juvenile reactions, like you have had when you opened up about your own experiences, are because a lot of people find it scary and confronting to admit that we, the human race, are not on top of the technological tree.

However, having dealt with a number of people who have had experiences with UFOs and contactees, I know we do have some advantages over the visitors (particularly the 'Greys'); that being our free will and our spiritual self, that individual energy that makes us who we are.

Gradually more openess about the subject will happen, and less ridicule; already some newspapers are being more accepting and open minded in Australia.

cheers

jissy

 

[swift240]

Mike,
I suspect a lot of juvenile reactions, like you have had when you opened up about your own experiences, are because a lot of people find it scary and confronting to admit that we, the human race, are not on top of the technological tree.

However, having dealt with a number of people who have had experiences with UFOs and contactees, I know we do have some advantages over the visitors (particularly the 'Greys'); that being our free will and our spiritual self, that individual energy that makes us who we are.

Gradually more openess about the subject will happen, and less ridicule; already some newspapers are being more accepting and open minded in Australia.

cheers

jissy

Hi Jissy,
Can I ask, how long do you think the greys have been here? What do you think they are doing here? Do you think they would help defend us?

These questions really, I ask myself a lot.

Mike.

 

[hsl]

I have to agree with the writer of this article that extraterrestrial invasions of Earth would probably be done in a soft way: by infiltrating us.

 

[Jissy]

Hi Jissy,
Can I ask, how long do you think the greys have been here? What do you think they are doing here? Do you think they would help defend us?

These questions really, I ask myself a lot.

Mike.

Hi Mike,

this is an extremely complex issue. There is a lot of organized (govt. dept.) disinformation about, and a whole bunch of people pretending they have something to say about it, but only if you pay them! Then there are scientists and other professionals who speak of the situation too. And then there are people who just need to know, for various reasons. I can only speak of my personal experiences and try to understand what I have been told by contactees.

Firstly, I am unsure how long the 'Greys", or EBEs, or whatever term is current, have been in contact with us. I suspect a lot longer than 60 years. According to some researchers, we are known to quite a few peoples, and some don't have travel very far to get here.

However, the little I have learned is this; USA, Britain, Russia, Canadia, Australia, France and Brazil Governments have (autonomous) squads to deal with contact and recovery etc. There are probably a lot more governments who have had contact as well.

So, to answer your question simply is not really possible, but , I would go by a basic gut feeling, if they look like us, then they are probably of the same genetic stock and not likely to cause undue harm, maybe even benefit us. The 'Greys' or EBEs, or whatever reference they use now, are not necessarily looking out for our best interests, in the long term. There is also talk of a genetic assimilation programme.

But know this, we have a strong energy, life force, soul, call it whatever you like, and using our belief systems, to create mental imagery and meditate upon that spiritual image creates a force, which may help you directly, and collectively some say, that global 'spiritual' force would be something to reckon with.. That is a good way to go.

Practise meditation; Tibetan monks are good for this, they will teach you a protecting mantra and give you an image to visualise with. Try it, you can always stop if it doesn't work for you.

Cheers Mike,
jissy

 

[rossfrb_1]

Someone name a movie or scifi book in which aliens on earth are actually defeated by conventional, pre-existing military means. Including nukes. Cuz i can't think of any. At all. And that's quite an achievement.

Edit: mmm - John Carpenter's "They Live", 1988? Although that wasn't military...

Independence day - once the alien shields were disabled - via a virus introduced thru a mac notebook, volleys of amraams proved effective

Independence Day (1996)

rb

 

[dragonfire]

Well how about if there alies with bad intentions against us there would be aliens who would be able to help us and fend off the oppressors as well. If one sees it in the way this planet runs now, there's a US who will support a Kuwait against an Iraq, likewise am sure there is a do-good alien race(s) who will help us in our time of need.

Also why would aliens want to destroy us when they can easily use us for outsourcing their non-core activities (you know the less tehnologicaly challenging ones which we humans can handle). And therez a new market for their products for which we will generate a lot of 'credits' for them