Singaporean NS for oversea's people

[kotay]

well, if u want to know, beyond 400 and thats B. thats during my time. dont know if they changed it now. beyond 800 thats usually C, or even C2, which is my case. free from all exercises just becos i'm wearing glasses.

I'm quite interested in knowing where you got your 400/800 cut-offs from

I've served as a company medic through all my active and reserves stints and have overseen over a score of my men's medical review board submissions. I have yet to see any categorical statement of standards and limits for PES status.

As I said in my previous post, my experience with medical reviews and PES gradings is that far from being set in stone , they are rather subject to other variables. I have an example of a soldier in my company with >800 coke bottle glasses and we are a Guards unit for crying out loud

As a further example, my cohort enlisted in 1988, the year the baby boomers of 1970 started entering the system. Mine was a period of manpower exceeding manning requirements ... when minor physical problems would have gotten you a PES B (or lower) and yet the above soldier got a PES A. I think he must have pissed off the reviewing officer.

These days, due to the low(er) birth rates, I understand that the requirements for a downgrade are more stringent. It is no longer that easy to get a PES B or lower grading.

as for those u called 'unfit', they are probably ex-sportsmen in high school and had some form of past injuries. 2 rugby guys were pes C under me, both mascular 6ft fellas, but had either broken kneecaps or dislocated arms in the past. also some other guys were national team players and the bosses dont want them to get unnecessary injuries during national service. most of my teammates in high school were volleyball players for the national team, and yeah, they play and have fun thruout NS.

Please read my post again. The use of the term physically "unfit" was in referral to some PES A soldiers who couldn't pass their IPPT. The guys you described, with chronic sports injuries, are most probably not PES A.

My point is that PES status DOES NOT correspond with physcial fitness. PES status is a grading of your ability to function in a combat environment, carrying heavy loads. IPPT measures your cardiovascular fitness and muscular strength vis your own body weight (ie. no extra load). They both measure different things and have different implications.

 

[weasel1962]

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[yeahwhat]

Well, my degree is 600 for both eyes and I am in PES A. Aniki, which year were you enlisted in?

Q3: What is the process of the application of university in the overseas country while having to go to NS? (Do u apply first to the uni overseas then go to NS? or leave it till after?)

This is complicated. If you have applied for US universities, they will probably allow 2 years deferment. For UK universities, only 1 year. Which means if you are going to UK, you should apply one year into your NS. However, there is another but not guaranteed method too. For some units, they will allow a disruption of your NS in the second year to let you go study first before coming back to serve the rest of your 2 years. This is dependent on which unit you go to.