Should PN aquire stealth ships ?

corsair7772

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And india isnt a poor navy sruggling 2 fulfill its needs. Stealth Frigs agnst it r useless. We shud be gettin Agostas or Frigs 4 our coastal defence and maritime aircraft 2.
 

shamsi

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PN's surface fleet is for coastal defence, and the current air surface, and sub-surface platforms are adequate to defend karachi. The ship building program will start after Humza is commisioned.
 

corsair7772

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And wat will we build? f-22 frigs? There way 2 advanced. Well have 2 start with gunboats or merchant ships.
 

shamsi

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Do you realize the sophistication of 90 Bravo project? F-22 is only a ship, and part of ToT from China. We have already built gunboats and merchant ships in Pakistan.
 

Oqaab

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corsair7772 said:
And wat will we build? f-22 frigs? There way 2 advanced. Well have 2 start with gunboats or merchant ships.
Ofcource they are, but they dont have any stealth features. Also, Pakistan will be getting the technology of the hull only.
 

shamsi

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And it's the hull that is the key to a small RCS...plus other things. PN Dockyard people are not as backward as you might think...
 

gf0012-aust

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stealthing up a ship

Low profile
Reduced footprint
Provide electronic support to other approp forces
Intelligence gathering without compromising the platform.
Low signature
Improved mission seakeeping abilities
Shock mitigation
Stable weapons platform
Excellent station keeping for supporting special warfare operations.
Low wash bow to enable more intrusive patrols to restricted brown water and/or inland waterways and anchorages
Low observability
Long range EW/C4i capabilities
More efficient propeller designs with reduced signature transmission
Reduction of angled surfaces to reduce direct reflection
Inclusion of some angled surfaces to redirect reflection
Contiguous hull and superstructure design
Masking of heat signals to reduce IR detection
Comms masking ability
Passive systems integration

The hulls a fair bit of the stealth capability. get that wrong and it doesn't really matter how good the rest of the stuff is.
 

Oqaab

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shamsi said:
And it's the hull that is the key to a small RCS...plus other things. PN Dockyard people are not as backward as you might think...
About PN dockyard, ppl there have beed making missile boats and there are still many programs running over missile boats. I remember a project of MPAC multirole warship is also running. It is probably a missile boat as well. So there arent any plans of making a frigate. Unfortunatly.

Comming back to the topic,

Yes, reduced RCS and external features will help a lot in making it stealthy. Radar absorbing paint is also there. But the ship also needs some good speedy missile.
 

Su_37

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Well why people call a country wiht 100 billion doller a poor one , india is the fourth country in asia which crossed 100 mark.

India can offored stealths ships wiht little more extra bucks then reguler ships.
 

shamsi

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Re: stealthing up a ship

gf0012 said:
Low profile
Reduced footprint
Provide electronic support to other approp forces
Intelligence gathering without compromising the platform.
Low signature
Improved mission seakeeping abilities
Shock mitigation
Stable weapons platform
Excellent station keeping for supporting special warfare operations.
Low wash bow to enable more intrusive patrols to restricted brown water and/or inland waterways and anchorages
Low observability
Long range EW/C4i capabilities
More efficient propeller designs with reduced signature transmission
Reduction of angled surfaces to reduce direct reflection
Inclusion of some angled surfaces to redirect reflection
Contiguous hull and superstructure design
Masking of heat signals to reduce IR detection
Comms masking ability
Passive systems integration

The hulls a fair bit of the stealth capability. get that wrong and it doesn't really matter how good the rest of the stuff is.
Wouldn't this all be a nice to have all in one platform...

The shipbuilding program is yet to materialize, till Humza is complete, as it's all based on funding. Once the sub is launched, tested, and commisioned, and type 53/f-22 joins, teams will start the ToT for the said contract to Dockyard.

As to speedy missiles, perhaps you are intimidated by Indian supersonic SSMs/ASMs. My friend, if you are afloat, only then can you launch any weapons. Indians often boats the "blitz over Karachi" in 1971, when the leased OSAs fires styx at Karachi. Those days are gone, and it's an EW, endurance, and sustainability war time.
 
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