Russia - General Discussion.

[Redshift]

Fact is fact, eventough the conclusions can be bias to their own agenda. Every 'think tank' doing it. That's think tank behavior as every think tank have agenda behind it. Liechtenstein is very big player in Global Financial market.

And packed full of Russian oligarchs, read this

Liechtenstein: The mysterious tax haven that's losing the trust of the super-rich

The tiny principality of Liechtenstein attracts the super-rich for its secrecy and security but, as a bitter legal case shows, there's a price: all legal right are held by the trustees

www.independent.co.uk

No doubt you will tell me that it's just western bias and the super super rich in Liechtenstein are all just lovely ordinary people with no agenda at all.

 

[Ananda]

doubt you will tell me that it's just western bias and the super super rich in Liechtenstein are all just lovely ordinary people with no agenda at all.

So..?? They are also big players on global financial market. They are not much difference then big bankers family like Rothschield. What's the different whether Western bias or Russian bias, as all also kowtowing and move carefully around big market players.

However those guys knows how markets work, so their think tank don't talk nonsense when describing transactions that happen. So when they describing something that happens in market, then it is already happening. You don't like it, but that's reality. Markets only knows bottom line and don't like political barriers. That's distrupt efficient market transactions. Thus the players will find ways to continue their 'efficient' transactions. For those financial haven, who cares on politics.

Try to see different ways, why Russian Oligarchs can still find haven in the middle of Euro Zone ? Just like Switzerland that's haven for both Nazi and Allies in WW2 doing transactions. Lichtenstein are just part of string of market haven. Haven because they care more on bottom line transactions then politics. They are big enough importance on Financial marker node, but also small enough as country to attract attention. They are a 'dot' that everyone needs.

 

[Redshift]

So..?? They are also big players on global financial market. They are not much difference then big bankers family like Rothschield. What's the different whether Western bias or Russian bias, as all also kowtowing and move carefully around big market players.

However those guys knows how markets work, so their think tank don't talk nonsense when describing transactions that happen. So when they describing something that happens in market, then it is already happening. You don't like it, but that's reality. Markets only knows bottom line and don't like political barriers. That's distrupt efficient market transactions. Thus the players will find ways to continue their 'efficient' transactions. For those financial haven, who cares on politics.

Try to see different ways, why Russian Oligarchs can still find haven in the middle of Euro Zone ? Just like Switzerland that's haven for both Nazi and Allies in WW2 doing transactions. Lichtenstein are just part of string of market haven. Haven because they care more on bottom line transactions then politics. They are big enough importance on Financial marker node, but also small enough as country to attract attention. They are a 'dot' that everyone needs.

What's wrong with you?

What does "you don't like it" mean. Reality or otherwise I can see that's these think tanks that you quote are just as biased as the western oriented ones that you dismiss , literally, every time anyone cites them.

I see things in as many ways as you do but I'm not hampered by your enormous anti western bias, which is so big I imagine that it can be seen from the moon.

I won't be responding to your next rant about how little I know, or how "I don't like it but it's true because you say it's true".

 

[Ananda]

What's wrong with you?

What does "you don't like it" mean. Reality or otherwise I can see that's these think tanks that you quote are just as biased as the western oriented ones that you dismiss , literally, every time anyone cites them.

And what's wrong with you ??? You are the ones that that continue branding me as anti West and as you always try to downgrade anyone that you perceived anti West. Like I said so many times, I like Western Financial Market, I make money on Western Market, but I don't like recent Western Politics. There's difference with Western Financial markets and Western Politics behavior. So I like Lichtenstein idea, but you are the one that doesn't like and brand their Think Tank as bias. That's the reality that outside your grasp of understanding.

You are already say from long time ago don't want to response to my posts. However you keep doing it. Shown you are really not now what you are talking about, and just like to 'brand' others.

 

[Redshift]

And what's wrong with you ??? You are the ones that that continue branding me as anti West and as you always try to downgrade anyone that you perceived anti West. Like I said so many times, I like Western Financial Market, I make money on Western Market, but I don't like recent Western Politics. There's difference with Western Financial markets and Western Politics behavior. So I like Lichtenstein idea, but you are the one that doesn't like and brand their Think Tank as bias. That's the reality that outside your grasp of understanding.

You are already say from long time ago don't want to response to my posts. However you keep doing it. Shown you are really not now what you are talking about, and just like to 'brand' others.

So rude again,

"outside your grasp of understanding" rude

" you are really not now what you are talking about" rude

"So I like Lichtenstein idea" confirmation bias


Of course you like it, because it fits your confirmation bias, if anyone is unaware of matters of their own bias it's you old chap

 

[Rob c]

How about the two of you give it a rest as you are tending to go around in circles. Time to agree that you disagree.

 

[Redshift]

How about the two of you give it a rest as you are tending to go around in circles. Time to agree that you disagree.

I'm all for that, I just don't appreciate the totally uncalled for insults

 

[Ananda]

just don't appreciate the totally uncalled for insults

You really want to continue on this ? You insult me first from time to time as Anti Western Bias. I told you I don't like Western politics especially recent trend, but I go for Western Financial market. That's what I say it is beyond your understanding that people that don't like Western Politics, is also still work with Western Financial market. This is why I like Financial haven places like Lichtenstein and their think tank, as financial market people (in their own way) much more honest then Western politicians and mainstream media biases. That's what beyond your understanding.

Clearly you are playing victims, when you are shown your Western superiority complex all along from beginning. Now calling insult ? Playing victims is bordering to phatetics.

Now when I'm stop to keep this thread civil, still you try to continue to baiting me.
Sorry mode team, can't help it as this guy clearly want to continue baiting me.

 

[Feanor]

I'm locking the thread to give everyone time to calm down.

 

[Feanor]

Reopening this with a stern warning to stay off the personalities. Also the circular discussion about Russian access to financial markets needs to end. Unless there are specific fact-based datapoints to discuss, the general direction for discussion is done. Clearly there will not be agreement until something dramatic happens.

 

[Feanor]

I'll open this up with a post to take this in a new direction. There are reports that Russia will help India build a early-warning radar of the Voronezh family. This is an area where Russia still has some relatively unique expertise and may be willing to provide access to knowledge and technology beyond what the USA for example is willing to offer. For India, China, and perhaps Iran, this might be offer an opportunity to get a program running much faster and much more effectively. Given that Russia will have a hard time supplying their traditional MIC products in volume (as they're needed for the war effort) this can help Russia stay relevant as a strategic partner but of course is also a potential vulnerability for Russia. Of course the Voronezh family of early-warning radars isn't cutting edge anymore either.

India may acquire advanced Russian radar system

Almaz-Antey’s Voronezh radar detects missiles, aircraft, and threats up to 6,000–8,000 km, supporting Russia’s missile defence network. New Delhi: India

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