Things are changing, they are never static. What held true in the past may not hold in the future. I suggest you read this and then you get back to us:
Europe Must Urgently Prepare to Deter Russia Without Large-Scale US Support | Royal United Services Institute (rusi.org)
While I greatly enjoy Prof. Bronk’s articles and trust his expertise, I disagree with his assessment of the situation. Rather disagree with some of it. Also remember, this is just one guy’s assessment. Yes, there are others who assess the current state of affairs similarly. However, their main argument is for the European continent to arm itself accordingly to deter Russia. No one is arguing that there is an inevitable conflict that is going to happen if Europe continues in the manner it had been. This is just common sense and anyone who argues against the appropriate deterrence is either not serious or simply doesn’t understand the concept of how the world (unfortunately) works.
I will again ask here, has there ever been any indication that the Russians Federation has an ambition to attack or capture any land every inch of which is currently covered by the Treaty? I believe the answer to this question is a no; however, it is a work of strategists to plan for such an event and ideally prevent it, which why he is talking about deterrence in case someone gets any ideas in the future (as you suggested, things aren’t static). This, however, is not relevant here because the proposal in my previous post was that there exists an uncertainty that the NATO membership being a sufficient enough deterrent to a potential attack by a hostile state and Russia in particular. This is further supported by the argument Prof. Bronk puts forward. Furthermore, as Biden and other mostly American politicians suggest, this uncertainty exists even with full readiness and involvement of the United States in the potential conflict.
Therefore, what I was and am suggesting is that the insistence on the admission of Ukraine to the Alliance in order to provide a bombproof (pun not intended) security for the country is at the very least misleading and otherwise outright dangerous. The latter has been clearly proven by the recent past and ongoing present. This insistence, based on the faulty argument behind it, again, led to a great conflict and otherwise destabilised the entire world. I mean this isn’t even debatable at the moment as it was accepted by all sides, including Ukraine, that that was the main reason for the current events. We can argue about it till our noses bleed, but I am fairly certain that the facts are on my side of that debate.
Furthermore, this very conflict led to the very argument Prof. Bronk is making, proposing that Russia may not stop at Ukraine and continue its opportunistic aggression trying “to seize symbolic areas of Alliance territory and challenge Article 5 without effective military recourse in the coming years.”
He also argues that any negotiated ceasefire would not last because Russia would take this opportunity to regroup and fix the logistics issues and resume its offensive from a much stronger position. While I do not necessarily disagree with this, the timeline of 3 to 6 months that he mentions is not realistic. His comparison to Syria and Chechnya is not appropriate either. In fact, he is referring to Chechnya as country and that is conceptually false because Chechnya was never one and neither was Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. I would also suggest a counter argument at this point (which I already mentioned previously in the other thread): Russia is not likely to agree to a ceasefire, in my opinion, but some negotiated permanent settlement of the conflict in order to end it to their satisfaction. Furthermore, I would also argue that at this point it would be more beneficial to Ukraine to take a pause and regroup, rest the troops, wait for more military assistance to arrive, give us (the backers) more time to work out the production and procurement issues of the artillery munitions and other ammunition/equipment, and so on. Russia doesn’t currently have any of this issues to the extent that Ukraine suffers from; it also has initiative at many (most or all?) areas of the front, it currently has an upper hand which it may very well hold on to for the foreseeable future, etc. Therefore, the proposal of a ceasefire to greatly benefit the Russians today is nonsense, with all due respect to Prof. Bronk. You can probably add to this point that just recently Ukraine has achieved in over 6 months what they planned to do in one day of their offensive - I don’t care who you are, but no one recovers from this quickly and I don’t even need to mention the equipment and personnel losses. In addition, they are now switching to defense for the most part for which they aren’t necessarily ready. It is just a very weak argument to suggest that Russia would be a great benefactor of any ceasefire right now. I am actually quite surprised that he proposed it in the first place. I was going to provide a summary to the following article later today, but I guess this is a good place to mention it:
Kyiv’s forces are now digging in for what could be an extended period of just trying to stop any more Russian advances. Western diplomats and military strategists say a depleted Ukraine needs time to rebuild, and that it may not be able to mount another significant counteroffensive until 2025.
Kyiv is preparing for adversity on many fronts as doubts build over the prospect of more U.S. arms and EU money.
www.wsj.com
So yes, I believe this was a very poor reasoning on his part.
I agree with him entirely that “Russian aims have hardened, but not changed and Kremlin’s will to grind on can be seen in its clear preparations for a long war and continued offensive action […]”. This is pretty clear and I talked about it in the other thread as well: the best chance Ukraine had was negations last year. Well, the better chance, I believe, was before the invasion even began. The next best chance was to negotiate after the “lightning” counteroffensive last fall. That didn’t happen. The stakes are significantly higher now and the “investment” from Russia is quite immense into this war; hence, it would be illogical to assume that they would agree to anything remotely close to what they would in the beginning and while having an upper hand as they do currently and I do not believe that there is much can be done to reverse the situation and significantly so. I really do not believe that the Russians will stop until there is a more or less (and likely more) permanent resolution. It would make no sense for them to do so.
Prof. Bronk also states that “what little disagreement is visible in Russian political and media circles is largely over how rather than whether to continue the war, with many critics calling for greater escalation or even direct conflict with NATO.” This, again, supports my argument that NATO membership does not guarantee security and very specifically so in case of Ukraine.
Another thing Prof. Bronk mentioned is that the current level of Russian investment into their military is very sustainable for the foreseeable future and he put the number at 6.5% of the GDP for 2024. While this is true, the Ukrainian 2024 defence budget is planned at 20.4% of the GDP that is 10 times smaller.
Ukraine plans big rise in defence spending in 2024 draft budget
The number they are providing is likely significantly lower and probably does not include direct military aid from the partners. They are also expecting a budget deficit of $43 billion in 2024 (significantly more than 25% of their GDP).
Will Western aid plug Ukraine's gaping budget deficit in 2024?
So sustainment is a very relative term here. Note that the article also indicates that “Ukraine spends all its revenue on the defence sector and army, while budget sector overheads have been largely covered by Western aid.”
Not sure if there is anything else I did not address from his article at this point. One other note to make, Prof. Bronk’s assessment regrading the not if but how to continue the war and some critics calling for escalation with NATO suggests, and this for some reason seems counterintuitive to many, that we are better off with Putin at the helm for as long as possible at this point. Incidentally, and “unexpectedly”, Putin announced he would be running for president again next year, lol.
Putin sends message to world with 'spontaneous' election announcement
So, Vivendi, to use your language, I would suggest that you find an article that actually counters my proposals or bring forward your own ideas and then get back to us/me? Haha. Seriously though…