Royal New Zealand Air Force

[danonz]

It is mentioned in the cabnit papers and may start this year

 

[Cadredave]

Why not the Embraer C-390 Millennium?
Unlike the C-2, it has significant international sales success, selected by Portugal, Hungary, Netherlands, Austria, Czech Republic, South Korea, Sweden & Uzbekistan as well as Brazil.

Its a tactical airlifter same size as a C-130J just faster, what NZ lacks is a capability to move oversized cargo long distances ie NH-90 sized loads.

 

[Warhawk]

Its a tactical airlifter same size as a C-130J just faster, what NZ lacks is a capability to move oversized cargo long distances ie NH-90 sized loads.

Unfortunately with our pollies never going happen only via sea from NZ defence force or on someone else aircraft sad unfortunately short sighted. So far only order 2 commercial aircraft and nearly 10 months and still not signed anything on the only option for naval helicopters while other's have they will be luck if see them in 2028 . Slow even in a unstable environment pollies only use word's I thought with the current government this would change but now know nothing has changed.

 

[Gibbo]

Unfortunately with our pollies never going happen only via sea from NZ defence force or on someone else aircraft sad unfortunately short sighted. So far only order 2 commercial aircraft and nearly 10 months and still not signed anything on the only option for naval helicopters while other's have they will be luck if see them in 2028 . Slow even in a unstable environment pollies only use word's I thought with the current government this would change but now know nothing has changed.

Big cuts to Govt dept's due next few years and whilst they wax lyrical about AI but they dont seem to have addressed, let alone thought about, the cost of both AI itself & consolidating Govt Dept's IT systems as the Dept's themselves are consolidated. I hope they do realise AI & massive IT systems changes are not free and will almost certainly gobble up most if not all of the 'savings'. With cuts across the board on top of those already made the GOTD knows their spend-up on Defence will become increasingly unpopular and so regardless of what's being said they won't want to be rushing out & splashing big cash on the NZDF, in fact they won't be able to afford it ...regardless of what we all here know NZ's 'should ' be doing. Trying to avoid being political here but also trying to add context as to why big ticket items will be limited.

 

[recce.k1]

Big cuts to Govt dept's due next few years and whilst they wax lyrical about AI but they dont seem to have addressed, let alone thought about, the cost of both AI itself & consolidating Govt Dept's IT systems as the Dept's themselves are consolidated. I hope they do realise AI & massive IT systems changes are not free and will almost certainly gobble up most if not all of the 'savings'. With cuts across the board on top of those already made the GOTD knows their spend-up on Defence will become increasingly unpopular and so regardless of what's being said they won't want to be rushing out & splashing big cash on the NZDF, in fact they won't be able to afford it ...regardless of what we all here know NZ's 'should ' be doing. Trying to avoid being political here but also trying to add context as to why big ticket items will be limited.

Share your concerns, they are real however I've heard the Finance Minister effectively say Defence won't be affected and that further investment is singled out as one of the Coalition Govt priorities.

The Foreign Minister is effectively saying the same.

Curiously he reckons:

Peters said the country needed to be spending 3 percent of GDP on defence, adding that he could make that happen "within a year".

'Our voice is not strong' - Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters on NZ's place on the global stage

The foreign affairs minister blames successive governments for failing to pump the necessary money into defence.

www.rnz.co.nz

Anyway, expect some announcements in coming days as the Budget is next week.