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Samoa

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ASSAIL said:
I feel you may be too cynical in your last sentence. I suspect that their corporate reputation is far too important for them to treat this as a triviality, they have a worldwide network of 20 shipyards in various countries whose image would be tarnished by such unconscionable conduct
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Maybe so. I do agree that until something further comes, they wouldn't be expected to have a larger manpower footprint as such. Maybe I am cynical, but that has come about from how little they have engaged with the Australian industry representatives to date. If you were serious you would be doing your earnest in trying to understand the capabilities of those in-country partners that you will need to work with when you "do" become successful and to establish those relationships now. This could be done with home base staff coming out from the parent organisation, bringing the mix of management, engineering, production representatives to meet with counterparts in-country. Given they have been successful in overseas campaigns with other customers that whose delivery requirements and expectations are significantly less than those of the CoA, I would understand if they did just say "pass".
 
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Trackmaster said:
Can I just say, there appears to be a lot of work going on with the azipods.
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Canberra has not been docked since her final touch up before commissioning. Considering the problems that Adelaide experienced I would have thought it both prudent and timely to thoroughly inspect the pods in much the same way shafts and shaft bearings are inspected at scheduled dockings
 
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ASSAIL said:
Canberra has not been docked since her final touch up before commissioning. Considering the problems that Adelaide experienced I would have thought it both prudent and timely to thoroughly inspect the pods in much the same way shafts and shaft bearings are inspected at scheduled dockings
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Fair point.
 
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Hobart commissioned at about 1235K today. All the TV people were there so imagine it will be on the news tonight. The PM did a Q& A with CDF and others afterwards with the ship in the background; depending on what he said that might be the story.
 
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Muar River

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Hopefully someone knows the answer to this question. The radar panels on the Hobart, Brisbane and Sydney are grey, white and blue/blue grey respectively. Is this to differentiate the ships or is there another reason?

Page 31 of Australian Warship has Brisbane at the wharf and an advanced Sydney on the hardstand (looks good with 42 painted on the hull). Does someone have an electronic copy which could be posted in this thread?
 
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The actual arrays are in US haze grey. While the ships are under construction, initially the locations which will accept the arrays are filled in by blanking plates, then after installation but before set to work the arrays have protective covers.
 
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Muar River

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spoz said:
The actual arrays are in US haze grey. While the ships are under construction, initially the locations which will accept the arrays are filled in by blanking plates, then after installation but before set to work the arrays have protective covers.
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Thanks for your reply.
 
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The government has spent hundreds of millions on these used subs. Some of this money was for repairs and maintenance, a great deal for system changes and upgrades, and a substantial amount of money was needed to repair Chicoutimi, the sub that caught fire while being delivered to Canada. Another one had a grounding incident.

I think if one were to sum up all the subsequent expenditures together with the 800 million sale price, 3-4 new German boats could have been purchased.
 
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If you want to shorten the drumbeat (build cycle), the easiest way would be to increase the number of boats. If 12 boats in 30 years is expected, make it 15 boats in 30 years, reducing the drumbeat from 30 to 24 months.
 
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hairyman said:
If you want to shorten the drumbeat (build cycle), the easiest way would be to increase the number of boats. If 12 boats in 30 years is expected, make it 15 boats in 30 years, reducing the drumbeat from 30 to 24 months.
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There might be a good argument to build submarines that are expected to last only one complete docking cycle.

That is to say they would serve 22 years instead of 30.
 
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APDR interviewed Pyne who advised the first new frigate, while a fully functional fleet unit, will be a prototype for training and experiment. The reasoning being the prototype will overcome the very tight timetable for production.

Other issues include the report on the selection of the combat system for the new frigates is with Pyne.

Pyne will travel to Poland to discuss the sale of the remaining OHP frigates.

It is good to see projects moving ahead for the RAN.


https://venturaapdr.partica.online/apdr/apdr-october-2017/flipbook
 
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