If Austal and Birdon can't get along then what will happen when Mitsubishi starts building Mogami frigates at Henderson?
At this stage I am not sure if the Japanese will be partnering up with anyone but Austal doesn't seem to play well with others.
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At this stage I am not sure if the Japanese will be partnering up with anyone but Austal doesn't seem to play well with others.
I think this one is on Birdon …
Civmec may be the better partner with mitsubishi leaving Hanwha open to buy a greater share of Austal?
Maybe?
Civmec = Mogami
Austal = Evolved Capes, LCM, LCH, LOSV, Autonomous vessels in partnership with Greenroom Robotics recently announced.
‘Austal will also unveil its Vantage-class concept for two sizes of optionally crewed vessels at Indo-Pac. One is a 25m vessel with a payload of one TEU (20ft container equivalent), with a top speed of 20 knots and a range of 1200 nautical miles at 10 knots; and the other is a 55m vessel with a capacity of four TEUs, a top speed of 25 knots and a range of 6000 nautical miles at 12 knots.
“These concepts are very much designed to meet the needs of the ADF, contributing to a distributed and enduring maritime presence,” Abbott said.’
www.australiandefence.com.au
Civmec may be the better partner with mitsubishi leaving Hanwha open to buy a greater share of Austal?
Maybe?
Civmec = Mogami
Austal = Evolved Capes, LCM, LCH, LOSV, Autonomous vessels in partnership with Greenroom Robotics recently announced.
‘Austal will also unveil its Vantage-class concept for two sizes of optionally crewed vessels at Indo-Pac. One is a 25m vessel with a payload of one TEU (20ft container equivalent), with a top speed of 20 knots and a range of 1200 nautical miles at 10 knots; and the other is a 55m vessel with a capacity of four TEUs, a top speed of 25 knots and a range of 6000 nautical miles at 12 knots.
“These concepts are very much designed to meet the needs of the ADF, contributing to a distributed and enduring maritime presence,” Abbott said.’
Austal unveils Vantage-class optionally-crewed vessels - Australian Defence Magazine
Western Australian shipbuilder Austal has unveiled its concept for two new optionally-crewed vessels on the opening day of the Indo-Pacific maritime exposition in Sydney | Nigel Pittaway
www.australiandefence.com.au
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Wouldn't surrprise me to see Austal concentrate more on autonomous vessels rather than larger manned ships. Smaller vessels have always been more their forte. Potentially a huge market with US involvement as well.I think this one is on Birdon …
Civmec may be the better partner with mitsubishi leaving Hanwha open to buy a greater share of Austal?
Maybe?
Civmec = Mogami
Austal = Evolved Capes, LCM, LCH, LOSV, Autonomous vessels in partnership with Greenroom Robotics recently announced.
‘Austal will also unveil its Vantage-class concept for two sizes of optionally crewed vessels at Indo-Pac. One is a 25m vessel with a payload of one TEU (20ft container equivalent), with a top speed of 20 knots and a range of 1200 nautical miles at 10 knots; and the other is a 55m vessel with a capacity of four TEUs, a top speed of 25 knots and a range of 6000 nautical miles at 12 knots.
“These concepts are very much designed to meet the needs of the ADF, contributing to a distributed and enduring maritime presence,” Abbott said.’
Austal unveils Vantage-class optionally-crewed vessels - Australian Defence Magazine
Western Australian shipbuilder Austal has unveiled its concept for two new optionally-crewed vessels on the opening day of the Indo-Pacific maritime exposition in Sydney | Nigel Pittaway
FYI, the IndoPac conference is being live streamed on the RAN YouTube page : Royal Australian Navy
Updated Hunter images via BAE/Bluescope
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iambuzzard
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I still can't get my head around that pineapple on top!!!!
The deal nobody wants to talk about while the PM’s in South Korea
An overdue ruling on South Korean defence giant Hanwha’s bid to double its stake in shipbuilder Austal may prove awkward for Anthony Albanese this week.
Some of the shareholders are obviously well connected politically and play the look after the locals card well.
But it's going to do them out of a lot of work as they're not the big player on the world scale they think are. Can definitely see MHI forming a partnership with Civmec for the GPF leaving Austal do their own thing.
Sounds good in theory, Civmec could potentially start building steel units end 2026 after contract signing and accelerate the Australian build of upgraded Mogami timeline 3-4 years. Risky without the first ship in service but possible.Austal seem to be deliberately very difficult to work with.The deal nobody wants to talk about while the PM’s in South Korea
An overdue ruling on South Korean defence giant Hanwha’s bid to double its stake in shipbuilder Austal may prove awkward for Anthony Albanese this week.www.afr.com
Some of the shareholders are obviously well connected politically and play the look after the locals card well.
But it's going to do them out of a lot of work as they're not the big player on the world scale they think are. Can definitely see MHI forming a partnership with Civmec for the GPF leaving Austal do their own thing.
d-ron84
Active Member
I'm getting used to it, what I can't work out is if these are new pics, why do they still have harpoon?
I'm pretty sure that they're going to be fitted with NSM from the start.
Todjaeger
Potstirrer
Are they supposed to be Harpoon launchers though? Or is the RAN also using the Mk 141quad launchers for NSM? Alternately, is Australia using a different but similar looking quad-launcher arrangement?
d-ron84
Active Member
The pic is clearly quad stacked Cannister Launched Harpoon.
I can go in depth to answer the rest of your comment, or are you just living up to the "Potstirrer" tag?
iambuzzard
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Where's Nulka?
d-ron84
Active Member
Pic no#3 (img_2953) the two back to back launchers on top of the hanger
and in Pic no#1 (img_2952) you can see the top half just aft of the launcher on the bridgewing
Say what you want about their capability, they’re never going to win a beauty contest…
Todjaeger
Potstirrer
I agree that it shows quad-packed angled launchers, which AFAIK is an available configuration for NSM as well and not only for Harpoon. Hence the question on whether the RAN is also using the Mk 141 for NSM. To date, I have been able find info on different NSM launcher configurations, but not which launchers are used by the RAN, never mind what they look like.
Relating to that, if someone has a picture of the NSM launchers the RAN is now using and can post it that would be helpful. The only NSM angled launchers I have found images of are boxed launchers used by Polish or USMC shore batteries.
On further digging, it looks like the USN has quad-box launchers for NSM fitted aboard at least some of the LCS. Is this the launcher the RAN is using?
Link to the TWZ article where I found the USN images here.
These ones. I can't find a photo of them fitted right now though. Odd. Definitely seen them on one of the Anzacs...
