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SammyC

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Conroy unveils multi-billion GWEO blueprint

More information on the GWEO announcement. Ignore the army part but the below statement relates to Hobarts and Tomahawks. Aparently they will be fitted before Christmas for the first lot. That is faster than I had expected to be not just received but fielded.

As part of the announcement, Minister Conroy confirmed that the Royal Australian Navy's Hobart class destroyers would field the proposed 200 Tomahawk cruise missiles by the end of the year, providing an increase in the Navy's strike range by 10 times.
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iambuzzard

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SammyC said:
Conroy unveils multi-billion GWEO blueprint

More information on the GWEO announcement. Ignore the army part but the below statement relates to Hobarts and Tomahawks. Aparently they will be fitted before Christmas for the first lot. That is faster than I had expected to be not just received but fielded.
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Good news. They needed some positive press. Maybe they'll pull forward the down select. If it's 32 VLS on the GPF the the Spanish and Germans are out of the picture.
 
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Going Boeing

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This transcript of Pat Conroy’s address to the National Press Club gives some good indication of the thinking behind these announcements and the direction that the government is taking. He seems to be getting the message across better than Defence Minister Marles (if you ignore the usual political waffle).

“Analysts believe we are now on the cusp of a new Indo-Pacific missile age.

In addition to the terrible damage missiles can wreak, they can also be used as tools of coercion.

In the language of strategy, they are persistent.

They pose a threat night and day, regardless of when or whether they are actually launched.

The modern missile age is defined by proliferation and by rapid technological advances – often accompanied by a lack of transparency or strategic reassurance.

In this world, we have a choice.

We can watch and wring our hands, or we can respond.

We can make sure that Australia can hold an adversary at risk through our northern approaches.

We can seek to deter conflict or attempts to coerce Australia by force and, in this way, contribute to regional security.

We can work closely with our ally, the United States, and with other key partners in the Indo-Pacific, such as Japan and the Republic of Korea – partners that share our concerns and are prepared to strengthen cooperation in support of shared interests.

WHAT THE NEW MISSILE AGE MEANS FOR AUSTRALIA

The Defence Strategic Review concluded that the rise of this new missile age – crystallised by the proliferation of long-range precision strike weapons – has radically reduced the advantages of Australia’s geography.”
 
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iambuzzard

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Going Boeing said:
This transcript of Pat Conroy’s address to the National Press Club gives some good indication of the thinking behind these announcements and the direction that the government is taking. He seems to be getting the message across better than Defence Minister Marles (if you ignore the usual political waffle).

“Analysts believe we are now on the cusp of a new Indo-Pacific missile age.

In addition to the terrible damage missiles can wreak, they can also be used as tools of coercion.

In the language of strategy, they are persistent.

They pose a threat night and day, regardless of when or whether they are actually launched.

The modern missile age is defined by proliferation and by rapid technological advances – often accompanied by a lack of transparency or strategic reassurance.

In this world, we have a choice.

We can watch and wring our hands, or we can respond.

We can make sure that Australia can hold an adversary at risk through our northern approaches.

We can seek to deter conflict or attempts to coerce Australia by force and, in this way, contribute to regional security.

We can work closely with our ally, the United States, and with other key partners in the Indo-Pacific, such as Japan and the Republic of Korea – partners that share our concerns and are prepared to strengthen cooperation in support of shared interests.

WHAT THE NEW MISSILE AGE MEANS FOR AUSTRALIA

The Defence Strategic Review concluded that the rise of this new missile age – crystallised by the proliferation of long-range precision strike weapons – has radically reduced the advantages of Australia’s geography.”
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It seems like Conroy knows what he's taking about. If he's put thought into his portfolio and this not just a speechwriter's words there's hope for us yet.
 
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seaspear

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Stampede said:
Glad navy are doing something in this space.

Quick search turned up this info from Flightwave.

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Looks the same.

As spoz mentions, it looks like a toy in comparison to Schiebels offering.

That said, I assume its low cost and has a place across the fleet.
If it proves its worth I'd imagine it's cheap enough to buy in significant numbers to employ on every vessel from a Cape to a LHD.

Still see a place for a S-100 sized platform in conjunction with the above and also manned helicopters.

Cheers S
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With the Red Cat being so small compared to the previous Schiebel is it possible that a large number could be carried and launched from same ship and not just tier one ships ? certainly any action taken against a large drone would leave the ship without that ability a uav brings
 
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Underway

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seaspear said:
With the Red Cat being so small compared to the previous Schiebel is it possible that a large number could be carried and launched from same ship and not just tier one ships ? certainly any action taken against a large drone would leave the ship without that ability a uav brings
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Your going to get way more flight hours with the Red Cat than the Schiebel. Less flight deck management issues and conflicts, easier to move in and out of the helo bay, takes up way less limited space onboard ship or in the helo bay, less maintenance and air safety concerns, less crew requirements and the platform is more attritable so you can risk it more readily.

Schiebel pulls techs away from helo feed and caring (its basically a baby helo). With limited spots onboard getting a non-aircrew pers to work the Red Cat is going to simplify small ship UAV flight evolutions and air ops management immeasurably.

I think that's probably a good tradeoff if you already have a helicopter embarked or if your crew is to small properly take care of a helo
 
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