Roll on April the 2nd. With regards to the AEW conversation, we appear to be straying from the RAN theme. Back on topic please. Feel free to cover this in the RAAF thread or ADF general thread.
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Royal Australian Navy Discussions and Updates 2.0
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Going Boeing
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Scott Elaurant
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Looks like the French have also learned to have a laugh at nuclear subs. Note the proposed build location for the French - UK joint build.
www.navalnews.com
France Joins AUKUS Submarine Program - Naval News
Under extended plans, France will join the AUKUS submarine program. This will see advanced nuclear-powered attack submarines built for Australia, United Kingdom and France.
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I'm looking forward to seeing the floating dock. Where will it be built? Half in the UK & half in France?Looks like the French have also learned to have a laugh at nuclear subs. Note the proposed build location for the French - UK joint build.
France Joins AUKUS Submarine Program - Naval News
Under extended plans, France will join the AUKUS submarine program. This will see advanced nuclear-powered attack submarines built for Australia, United Kingdom and France.
Going Boeing
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Previously, there has been speculation about whether all 6 Collins class will go through the LOTE when 3 Virginia’s will be acquired in the 2030’s - in this interview, Vice Admiral Mead has confirmed that they will.
Sky News: Massive Opportunity - AUKUS Workforce
Sky News: Massive Opportunity - AUKUS Workforce
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John Fedup
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One of the Channel Islands?
There is that magic number of 8 submarines and it seems the Australian government wants to get to that number ASAP.
Six Collins and two Virginias initially with a third Virginia arriving towards the end of the thirties when the Collins start to retire. The options for two more Virginias could then be exercised to maintain submarine numbers if required.
The upgraded program will be renamed FUKUS after France joinsLooks like the French have also learned to have a laugh at nuclear subs. Note the proposed build location for the French - UK joint build.
France Joins AUKUS Submarine Program - Naval News
Under extended plans, France will join the AUKUS submarine program. This will see advanced nuclear-powered attack submarines built for Australia, United Kingdom and France.
Well bugger we getting Nuclear boats before WWII?
Going Boeing
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I’m still living in the last century.Well bugger we getting Nuclear boats before WWII?
Apologies for the typo.
Gents it's 3 days past april fools, can we put it aside for another year ? Meanwhile the RAAF kindly provided some targeting practice for 2 Hobart class ops rooms....
"A Royal Australian Air Force F-35A Lightning II conducts a flypast over HMAS Sydney during Exercise Tasman Shield 2023." Image Source : ADF Image Library
"A Royal Australian Air Force F-35A Lightning II conducts a flypast over HMAS Sydney during Exercise Tasman Shield 2023." Image Source : ADF Image Library
I haven't seen anything about Aust minelayers since the Arafura was tipped to be one. The UK site has talked about their 11m boats doing minehunting. Is this the sort of thing we'd be looking at? In theory, the arafura could carry x3 of the drones the 11m minehunters could carry, perhaps with upgraded cranes on deck
www.navylookout.com
Royal Navy autonomous mine hunting at the sharp end | Navy Lookout
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I've been looking for the range of the latest versions of the NSM (other than the oft quoted >100NM) and noticed this in an old Janes article:
www.janes.com
So, that would be a range for NSM Block 1A of >248KM or >134NM.
It's certainly a massive upgrade in anti-ship and anti-surface capability for the RAN.
Australia fast-tracks NSM Block 1A for RAN surface fleet
The Australian Department of Defence (DoD) is to fast-track the acquisition of the latest-variant Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace (KDA) Naval Strike Missile (NSM) Block 1A...
www.janes.com
So, that would be a range for NSM Block 1A of >248KM or >134NM.
It's certainly a massive upgrade in anti-ship and anti-surface capability for the RAN.
Last I heard were plans to base these vessels on the Arafura class but that was under a different government and so far no firm order has been made. I suspect that this will be addressed when the DSR is released this month.I haven't seen anything about Aust minelayers since the Arafura was tipped to be one. The UK site has talked about their 11m boats doing minehunting. Is this the sort of thing we'd be looking at? In theory, the arafura could carry x3 of the drones the 11m minehunters could carry, perhaps with upgraded cranes on deck
Royal Navy autonomous mine hunting at the sharp end | Navy Lookout
Looking at what the UK are doing and what I have heard about the Australian plans minewarfare will be more organic than before. While there will eventually be a few specialised ships I expect that sizable part of the MCM capability will be operated from ships like the Hunter class and other ships of opportunity.
John Newman
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Defence likes it’s Offshore Support Vessels, appears that another one has been procured:
www.australiandefence.com.au
Sounds like another bargain, reportedly to be $60m (in Defence budget terms, that’s a few loose coins found down the back of the lounge).
This one has reportedly been named ‘Guidance’.
That will make four now, ADV Ocean Protector, ADV Reliant and of course ABFC Ocean Shield operated by Border Force.
Interesting.
Has Defence purchased another Offshore Support Vessel? - Australian Defence Magazine
Defence may have procured another second-hand offshore support vessel (OSV) from overseas ahead of the government's formal response to the DSR being made public.
www.australiandefence.com.au
Sounds like another bargain, reportedly to be $60m (in Defence budget terms, that’s a few loose coins found down the back of the lounge).
This one has reportedly been named ‘Guidance’.
That will make four now, ADV Ocean Protector, ADV Reliant and of course ABFC Ocean Shield operated by Border Force.
Interesting.
Redlands18
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Guidance? Think someone needs guidance on ship names, cannot for the life of me work that one out.Defence likes it’s Offshore Support Vessels, appears that another one has been procured:
Has Defence purchased another Offshore Support Vessel? - Australian Defence Magazine
Defence may have procured another second-hand offshore support vessel (OSV) from overseas ahead of the government's formal response to the DSR being made public.
Sounds like another bargain, reportedly to be $60m (in Defence budget terms, that’s a few loose coins found down the back of the lounge).
This one has reportedly been named ‘Guidance’.
That will make four now, ADV Ocean Protector, ADV Reliant and of course ABFC Ocean Shield operated by Border Force.
Interesting.
John Newman
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The ADM article does suggest that she might be used as a mothership for unmanned systems/vessels, Guidance would appear to be appropriate.
Regardless, she won’t be a commissioned RAN ship, probably be known as ADV Guidance, not really worth getting wound up about that.
Going Boeing
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The Royal Navy also recently acquired a similar vessel - their capabilities must suit the direction being taken by modern navies.Defence likes it’s Offshore Support Vessels, appears that another one has been procured:
Has Defence purchased another Offshore Support Vessel? - Australian Defence Magazine
Defence may have procured another second-hand offshore support vessel (OSV) from overseas ahead of the government's formal response to the DSR being made public.
Sounds like another bargain, reportedly to be $60m (in Defence budget terms, that’s a few loose coins found down the back of the lounge).
This one has reportedly been named ‘Guidance’.
That will make four now, ADV Ocean Protector, ADV Reliant and of course ABFC Ocean Shield operated by Border Force.
Interesting.
UK purchases commercial vessel for conversion to ocean surveillance ship | Navy Lookout
Redlands18
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Would probably make a good R&D and Trg Platform for unmanned systems, a lot more room, better facilities, accommodation etc than trying to use an OPV or a MFU.