Replacement for the SAW?

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SuperSLime said:
That's weird, because our SAS have been using the Minimi for nearly 20 years and they love it. It became general infantry issue not long before Gulf War 2; the infantry love it too, and think it's MUCH better than the 12lb magazine-fed automatic rifle it replaced as the Section LMG.
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Well the U.S. military fells differently, and they feel strongly about replacing the SAW and I have to agree with them.
 
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Well if the USMC says the IAR is better then I will take their word for it. Simple as that.
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Oh come on. The two units are hardly in the same class, are they?

Also, the SAS have had the opportunity to use the L86 - a weapon in the general class of the IAR (which the USMC can't say is better because they don't have one yet) - and they weren't impressed.
 
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Lads, cool down.

SAS vs USMC? Different wars, different doctrines and different loadout of men/weps mix.

Let's not get into a pissing contest over whose word we shall take as the gospel truth yeah.:D
 
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SuperSLime said:
Oh come on. The two units are hardly in the same class, are they?

Also, the SAS have had the opportunity to use the L86 - a weapon in the general class of the IAR (which the USMC can't say is better because they don't have one yet) - and they weren't impressed.
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Thats becasue the L86 could only use 30 round mags. The IAR can use 30 and 100 round mags.
 
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Thats becasue the L86 could only use 30 round mags. The IAR can use 30 and 100 round mags.
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The L86 is capable of using any STANAG magazine, and the SAS are quite happy to use non-issue mags. Nevertheless, they rejected the L86/C-Mag combination in favour of the Minimi.

Every major army so far that has adopted an automatic rifle as a Section support weapon has realised its mistake and gone back to using a proper LMG. The UK recycled the L86A2s as DMRs, but the USMC has already filled that requirement.

The automatic rifle is a dead end.
 
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