Pakistan test-fires long-range nuclear-capable missile

[P.A.F]

http://www.dawn.com/2005/07/02/top4.htm

Plea to boost missile capability




By Anwar Iqbal
WASHINGTON, July 1: Pakistan will either have to acquire its own missile defence system or increase its missile capabilities if the United States provides a missile defence system to India, Ambassador Jehangir Karamat told Dawn on Friday.

On Wednesday, the US and India signed a 10-year defence pact that entails joint weapons production, cooperation on missile defence and the transfer of technology.

“Some elements of this agreement do concerns us,†said Gen Karamat, who headed the Pakistani armed forces during the May 1998 nuclear crisis when Pakistan decided to conduct a series of nuclear tests in response to similar tests by India.

The ambassador recalled that India has been trying to acquire PAC-3 missile defence system from the US for sometime and the defence pact signed this week does have a provision for bilateral cooperation in the field of missile defence.

“This will be a new element in South Asia. Although India has been talking about missile defence for sometime, the pact could lead to a transfer of systems, such as PAC-3, which will disturb the strategic balance of power,†said Gen Karamat. “We will not be able to ignore this, and will have to take steps to protect our deterrence capability,†he said.

Patriot Advanced Capability-3 or PAC-3 is a missile defence system that relies on kinetic energy to eliminate short and medium-range missiles carrying nuclear, biological and chemical warheads.

The US had already offered to sell second-generation PAC-2 missile defence system to India but New Delhi did not appear much interested in the system and latest report indicate that Washington has now agreed in principle to sell the advanced PAC-3 system to New Delhi.

“If India gets PAC-3, we will either have to ask the US also to provide the same system to us or we will have to think of other ways to have our own missile defence,†said Ambassador Karamat.
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about time

 

[kashifshahzad]

Mate P.A.F Pakistan is trying to acquire FT-2000 from China so it will be a good match for the PAC-3

FT-2000 SAM: Pakistan is showing great interest in its own ATBM, and a missile-intercept capable version of the Chinese FT-2000A appears to be the most likely choice.

Possible Missile Defenses Pakistani sources interviewed before the IDEAS show, as well as some recent published information, indicates that Pakistan’s leadership is very interested in obtaining a limited missile defense capability, especially to match any prospective Indian missile defenses that could be obtained from Israel or the U.S. This impression was confirmed by sources interviewed at the IDEAS show, while there was general reluctance to discuss the details of any future missile defense system. Published sources indicate that Pakistan is considering the purchase of a new active-guided version of the Chinese FT-2000 surface-to-air missile (SAM). In 1998 Chinese sources disclosed to the author that this SAM, originally designed with a passive seeker intended to attack electronic warfare aircraft, would eventually feature an active-guidance system that would have an anti-tactical ballistic missile (ATBM) capability. In 2003 the FT-2000A was disclosed in a Malaysian defense journal, complete with a new active phased-array radar for long-range missile guidance. The FT-2000 program is believed to stem from the HQ-9 program, which in turn has been described to the author as having benefited from Russian S-300 and U.S. Patriot PAC-2 SAM technology. In an ATBM mode, the FT-2000A might only be useful against short-range Indian missiles like the Prithvi or Dhanush, not against longer-range and thus faster Agni missiles.

Yeah this is right that Pakistan muct consider regarding this issue because the greater and long range SAM sites the stronger will be the defence I dont know about the exect range of this anti aircraft missle system but i think the range is 12 ~ 100 km
the SAM systems which Pakistan have now a days are very out dated such as he SA-2 and cortale now those ANZA cant handle the ssituation there must be a system which could ingage a brunch of AC's e.g 5-10 i give you an example that i have heard from an armoror who is in PAF he told me that the SA-2 is used to distroy AC's which are in quantity like 5-10 it has a system which enables it to blast a few meter away from the AC's so lets see what happens in the near future

 

[XEROX]

Would pakistan develop on its own or aquire from another country a target acquisition radar for its FT-2000 surface to air missiles

 

[kashifshahzad]

Would pakistan develop on its own or aquire from another country a target acquisition radar for its FT-2000 surface to air missiles

I think Pakistan will aquire it from China no indignous working on long or medium ranged SAM's only Short range SAM's i.e ANZA P.A.F and SABRE can tell you more

 

[XEROX]

I think china and therfore Pakistan would use the [size=-1]HT-233, but whats its range and how many targets can it track
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[kashifshahzad]

I think china and therfore Pakistan would use the [size=-1]HT-233, but whats its range and how many targets can it track
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PJ-10 BrahMos what is that thing HT-233 i have dearched but i failed to get any thing the chineese only have FT-2000,S-300(SA-10),KS-1,HQ-2 in the long range SAM's where did you get information about that thing can you please what are its Spec

 

[kashifshahzad]

I think china and therfore Pakistan would use the [size=-1]HT-233, but whats its range and how many targets can it track
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PJ-10 BrahMos what is that thing HT-233 i have dearched but i failed to get any thing the chineese only have FT-2000,S-300(SA-10),KS-1,HQ-2 in the long range SAM's where did you get information about that thing can you please what are its Spec i am getting confuesed

 

[XEROX]

The [size=-1]HT-233 is [/size]the phased array radar which is used with the FT-2000

 

[kashifshahzad]

The [size=-1]HT-233 is [/size]the phased array radar which is used with the FT-2000

Sorry mate misunderstood

For the detection and localisation of hostile radar emissions and jammers the FT-2000 makes use of four ground-based Electronic Support Measures (ESM) sensor posts, each of which is mounted on wheeled vehicles and can together track 50 targets simultaneously. The ESM sensor posts are deployed at a distance 30km from each other. The missile launchers are deployed near the central ESM sensor station at a distance of 150 metres.

I think if it is places in the major bases then it can really work i think PAF has 6-10 main bases on which FT-2000 can communicate with the AC's and can ask them to get the Enemy aircrafts into its range this is good

 

[mysterious]

Pakistan may test N-capable missile soon

ISLAMABAD: Pakistani scientists are fine-tuning a new version of nuclear-capable missile which could suggest the country will test fire it soon, an official at one of Pakistan’s main nuclear facilities said on Friday. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorised to speak to the media, refused to say whether it was a long-range missile, or provide any other details. “Our scientists have started putting the final touches on a missile and Pakistan may test it soon,†the official said. A local Urdu newspaper had reported on Friday that Pakistan was likely to test fire a ballistic missile before August 14.

But army spokesman General Shaukat Sultan refused to confirm the report, saying he had no such information. Pakistan test fired its first missile and carried out nuclear tests in 1998.President General Pervez Musharraf last week said Pakistan’s missile programme is progressing well and that there will be more missile tests in the coming months.

The official’s comments come as Pakistan and India hold talks in New Delhi on sharing information ahead of missile tests and other measures aimed at reducing the risk of nuclear conflict between the longtime rival nations. Pakistan last tested its short-range nuclear capable missile in March while India test-fired its short-range surface-to-air Trishul missile from a mobile launcher off its eastern coast on July 26. AP

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_6-8-2005_pg7_13

Could this be the much awaite Ghauri-III?

 

[ashblackhawk]

But army spokesman General Shaukat Sultan refused to confirm the report, saying he had no such information. Pakistan test fired its first missile and carried out nuclear tests in 1998.President General Pervez Musharraf last week said Pakistan’s missile programme is progressing well and that there will be more missile tests in the coming months.


Could this be the much awaite Ghauri-III?

I think may be Pakistan is now thinking of develop a missile with its nuclear range hitting Israel accurately because most of India is in its nuclear reach, everyone in India knows that :coffee .

 

[P.A.F]

Could this be the much awaite Ghauri-III?

or it could be the long awaited Tippu missile.

 

[kashifshahzad]

or it could be the long awaited Tippu missile.

Yeah i have also heard about this missile but there is little information available about this missile this missile dosent seems to me real there are differnent ranges which are given in the net some says it has the range of 4500km

 

[SABRE]

I think may be Pakistan is now thinking of develop a missile with its nuclear range hitting Israel accurately because most of India is in its nuclear reach, everyone in India knows that :coffee .

Pakistan does have a range to strike Israel but So far Israel has not threatened Pakistan & we intend to do same & want it to remain that way. The prime objective of Pakistani Missiles was to defened against India & that has been achieved. These the tests we usualy see now are to improve the technology not the range.

But the long range Missile has always been in the planning which offcourse brings Israel in the range but again thats not the objective.

 

[kashifshahzad]

Pakistan does have a range to strike Israel but So far Israel has not threatened Pakistan & we intend to do same & want it to remain that way. The prime objective of Pakistani Missiles was to defened against India & that has been achieved. These the tests we usualy see now are to improve the technology not the range.

But the long range Missile has always been in the planning which offcourse brings Israel in the range but again thats not the objective.

Speaking honestly
If Isreal was the target then there had been several attempts made against Pakistan to take the WDM's out of Pakistan then Pakistan would have been in a lot of trouble so take the right way and get all Indian teritory in missile from Dehli to the Aasam province.

 

[aaaditya]

i dont think pakistan has land or sea mass to testfire this kind of a missile(long range missile).

 

[kashifshahzad]

i dont think pakistan has land or sea mass to testfire this kind of a missile(long range missile).

Welcome Back Aaaditya
Do you know one thing that the screw driver was invented before the screw.So if Paksitan has missiles of that much range then ways can be found to test then you need not to worrry about that

 

[ashblackhawk]

Speaking honestly
If Isreal was the target then there had been several attempts made against Pakistan to take the WDM's out of Pakistan then Pakistan would have been in a lot of trouble so take the right way and get all Indian teritory in missile from Dehli to the Aasam province.

Kashif you sound more hawkish about Pakistan's ability while grossly underestimating others.
I think india dont consider pakistan as threat at all. All its weapons of modern warfare are directed against its eastern threats and ways to counterattack if it gets attacked from both the fronts. ICBM's will be outdated(unless stealth ICBM's are invented-i heard about russian claim) once people develop the effective ways to detect and destroy long before it is somewhere near the target. :coffee

 

[kashifshahzad]

Kashif you sound more hawkish about Pakistan's ability while grossly underestimating others.
I think india dont consider pakistan as threat at all. All its weapons of modern warfare are directed against its eastern threats and ways to counterattack if it gets attacked from both the fronts. ICBM's will be outdated(unless stealth ICBM's are invented-i heard about russian claim) once people develop the effective ways to detect and destroy long before it is somewhere near the target. :coffee

yeah yeah the western boarder is no threat to the india what about the Indian army standing for 10 months on the boarders and did nothing just the wastege of huge amount o money and what about the war tax which was collected from the people.Still you say that the western boarder can do othing harm to the india thats why when i see the range of missile they are pointed towards the Pakistan man Pak and india faught 3-4 wars still you say that Pak can do nothing do you know the result of the wars who won who lost both claims the same that they won what does it mean that now in this era if they will fight both will get nuked.This situation will never come the multinational compnies which are operating in the both contries would they let you drop a nuke on PAK and in resonce get nuked India too LOL