I,m not sure what is military status is i was just shocked at the comment because the NZDF didn't rush into the purchase they tested a lot of different systems before they settled on the MARS.
Yep @Cadredave is still lurking.
The person making the comment about the SLR may never have even seen one and still know that it weighs 5kg.
MARS-L is an outstanding weapon during the trials it out shot & out performed all other trial weapons it was the most versatile weapon for off handed shooting etc and ergonomics, now if it was as rubbish as this person makes it out to be then why on earth did NZSAS replace all there M4 with the MARS-L. Thats one of the reasons I dont pay any attention to those defence pros on youtube, last but not least all replacements were still under warranty so LMT replaced all defective parts.
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Thanks for the reply cadre i found it hard to believe because i knew the NZDF didn't rush in to the purchase they did a lot of testing of multiple weapons before they settled on the MARS-L and i saw the latest video the NZSAS made available which had them using the MARS your right they wouldn't go near it if the weapon was low quality.
Do not know. I read the article early this morning and from what it said may be cheaper to acquire a new weapon system. However don't forget that this new weapon system is only in the infancy stage at the moment and has a long way to go before it gets into soldiers hands even as test weapons for operational evaluation. The US have attempted similar before and it has ended up in the to expensive to hard basket, so we shall have to wait and see.
Yes i remember reading that years ago what a shame they didn't go with it.
That creedmoor 6.5mm round sounds awesome i think it comes in a 129 grain and a 140 grain the MARS L is good with the 77 grain 5.56mm it would be even better with the creedmoor round it would take the weapon to another level again.
That is getting very close to the standard 7.62 at 150 grain.
The US special ops tested the Creeedmoor and it out performed the 7.62mm hands down better range, accuracy, less effected by wind and less recoil so they are using it in their sniper rifles it was originally designed as a long range marksmanship bullet.
You cant compare SOCOM with US Army they have a totally different funding regime than Army has and very different requirements, they (SOCOM) are like our SAS what they require they get, ie like the MK48 SAW SOCOM has it conventional army does not. SOCOM are strategic troops whereas Army are tactical CONOPS for the two are very different.
More than a rifle: How a new 6.8mm round, advanced optics will make soldiers, Marines a lot deadlier
Well when I served there had been the odd occasion of five where people had be known to turn up to work still inebriated from the night before and / or hung over to hell. IIRC in the RNZAF if you were aircrew it was 12 hours from bottle to throttle. The culture was really different then and such behaviour is not tolerated today. If one made a habit of it, one would find oneself on the outside looking in rather quickly. Drugs were not tolerated then by the powers that be and by many service personnel. They just weren't worth the power of manure that would get in if you were caught. Put it this way 28 or 56 days Ardmore (the then Service Corrective Establishment) was a very good deterrent. My own personal view is that if the wacky baccy is legalised in NZ then it should not be so within NZDF purely because of health and safety concerns around what people are required to do and the fact that it can be a precursor to other drug misuse.
Yep that was my thinking on the matter as well.