But our pollies don't want anything to happen that will cost money, they are in a world of. it won't happen to us ' therefore we don't need to do anything. When put under pressure they start a "white paper" or "DCP" which takes enough time that they hope the fuss will have died down and then ignore it, re the last DCP. I don't see anything much happening under the new review coming up, except all the right noises and little action.
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recce.k1
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Supacat are actively promoting solutions for the NZDF's utility medium and utility light vehicle programme.
Some interesting modular/reconfigurable options - any thoughts chaps (Reg too, especially from your lived and learned experiences! Any feedback from the Army's current operators of the vehicle)?
Some interesting modular/reconfigurable options - any thoughts chaps (Reg too, especially from your lived and learned experiences! Any feedback from the Army's current operators of the vehicle)?
Interesting concept but personally I'm not sure it's a right fit for this particular project. Sure its a proven system and by all accounts a great vehicle, it's been described to me as a big beast, but still not exactly an "in service in numbers" make per se rather in service in niche roles ie SF, spec roles etc with 1000 worldwide? Pretty sure the RFI alone called specifically for a larger base example of @3000 at least but I could be wrong. Difference for us being as "common" and "in use" as a ford or as common as a ferrari in relative terms.
I used to think maybe we would follow suit of Australia and go 4x4 and 6x6 G wagons but perhaps the budget cut monster, timing or even Australian experience itself has quashed that? (Any Aussies care to comment?) but now after reading the latest request (which seems to be ever changing especially in terms of overall numbers at least) and some overseas projects I'm actually following the IVECO brand with interest which has just as much of a footprint in NZDF as supacat if not more as well as an established NZ wide presence and support network.
kiwi in exile
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There would be benefits to the supacat HMT platform as outlined in the video which seems to be unavailable currently 
deployability on a c130 or in a shipping container.
Has had MBDA brimstones and ASRAAMs intergrated in Ukraine
I have read that the RFI mentions sustainable options- there is hybrid battery options in development
In the press releases for the MAN recovery trucks we got a few years back it is mentioned that NZDF were planning (at that stage) to acguire a smaller, more high mobility recovery vehicle. There is a supacat HMT light recovery vehicle (deal breaker would be can it recover a bushmaster)
Recovery version is modelled with an armoured cab.
There was a HIMARS type version tested years ago by the UK- cancelled because??
The light vehicle requirement in the RFI asks for on road/off road flatbed single cab/dual cab and versions to transport 10 troops. Bushmaster makes these- why not just add more bushmasters. Im guessing cost.
The medium vehicle requirement sounds close to the MHOV HX60- why not just more of them?
deployability on a c130 or in a shipping container.
Has had MBDA brimstones and ASRAAMs intergrated in Ukraine
I have read that the RFI mentions sustainable options- there is hybrid battery options in development
In the press releases for the MAN recovery trucks we got a few years back it is mentioned that NZDF were planning (at that stage) to acguire a smaller, more high mobility recovery vehicle. There is a supacat HMT light recovery vehicle (deal breaker would be can it recover a bushmaster)
Recovery version is modelled with an armoured cab.
There was a HIMARS type version tested years ago by the UK- cancelled because??
The light vehicle requirement in the RFI asks for on road/off road flatbed single cab/dual cab and versions to transport 10 troops. Bushmaster makes these- why not just add more bushmasters. Im guessing cost.
The medium vehicle requirement sounds close to the MHOV HX60- why not just more of them?