Raven_Wing278
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how do u get a picture 2 come up..i wanna post the pic of the "new generation" chinese tank....
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NEW GENERATION CHINESE MAIN BATTLE TANK
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lol yeh thats the one...cheers dude 
No disrespect, but I don't base any credibility on any platform that is CGI'd. I see CGI renderings of new chinese equipment all the time - they don't mean squat. I tend to pay more attention to platform rollouts.Raven_Wing278 said:
All I've learnt from these images is that the Chinese have some pretty good imagers at work.
Of all the proposed platform CGI work that hits my desk, I think I've seen one in 6 years that has been a real platform.
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yeh i guess so...it looks like it can kill a Abhram a few times over
ROFLMAO. Care to give some technical reasons as to why this is so? It doesn't have to be against the Abrams either, give me a reason as to how and why this CGI rendering can kill any current modern Gen 4 MBT?Raven_Wing278 said:
any credible stats, photos of prototypes etc... ??
It's a picture for goodness sake. Any 13 yo gifted kid or games designer can deliver the same.
btw, if this rendering is of a "real" tank, it's also not DU armoured. So unless China has developed some brilliance in countering Chobham or Dorchester, then it's another T-62 with a fancy body on top.
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hey if u care to look closer...i did say it "LOOKED" like it can..i didnt say it can..jesus...and ur suppose 2 be moderator
And as the mod I'm asking to back up the comment. Anyone can make a throw away comment, I'm assuming that you are open for serious discussion here?Raven_Wing278 said:
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nah..have better things to do
About destorying a Abram, a Tank Destory can easily kill or hurt it...
And about the NCGT (NEW GENERATION CHINESE TANK) and Type-99G
do we really have any REAL PROVE that their armor are/aren't uranium?
The PLA like Raven said is UNPREDICATABLE, they could easily (take about 4~6 months) get uranium armor on a Type 99G.
And about the NCGT (NEW GENERATION CHINESE TANK) and Type-99G
do we really have any REAL PROVE that their armor are/aren't uranium?
The PLA like Raven said is UNPREDICATABLE, they could easily (take about 4~6 months) get uranium armor on a Type 99G.
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my point exactly armage...
would you mind telling me how you are going to add DU armour onto any chinese tank?
I'm curious to know what design innovation you are aware of that allows a DU retro fit.
I've worked on armoured vehicle projects, so this would be interesting for me to discover something new.
I'm curious to know what design innovation you are aware of that allows a DU retro fit.
I've worked on armoured vehicle projects, so this would be interesting for me to discover something new.
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also.adding 2 armages point..the tanks rear is also vulnerable...ppl these days think the abhrams or the chally series r chuggin around with with no chink in their armour...if u hit an abhram in the rear..i'd bet a basic AP shell cna penertrate it..DU armoured or not
Some news for you sport.Raven_Wing278 said:also.adding 2 armages point..the tanks rear is also vulnerable...ppl these days think the abhrams or the chally series r chuggin around with with no chink in their armour...if u hit an abhram in the rear..i'd bet a basic AP shell cna penertrate it..DU armoured or not
The weaps area is armoured. Their are numerous documented reports of one Chally 2 being hit by up to 7 RPG's in the rear - no penetration was achieved and no mobility kill achieved either.
Attacks have been made on the M1a's in the bum as the urban myth has been that they are weak there - all it has done is compromise fuel lines - see above. The entire cab area is armoured. Even when the storage area has been breached and the shells have started to cook off - not one crew member has been lost due to can rupture.
The point is (which you are obviously unaware of) is that these two tanks have hwta is considered to be the best protection and survivability of any current MBT - the Chally 2 is rated higher than the M1. No mobility kills have been achieved by a tank or MANPAT - the kills have been achieved by IED's. - and less than 5 in total.
Give me any other tank survivability stats that come even remotely close.
Your tank knowledge is pretty poor based on what you are saying. No tank is invincible, but I'd rather be in any of the Chally or Abrams A2 versions than in some of the POS that are touted as equivalents.
err, not you can't. It's best not to make things up when you don't know. It makes you look a bit silly.armage said:
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Do you know much about welding armage? Not all metals can be welded... I'd be amazed if DU armour was "welded" to normal armour. I'd think they'd find a different means of attaching same myself, mainly to allow for battle damage replacement.
Besides, DU's not all it's cracked up to be. The Challenger 2 is rated as the best protected tank in the world and demonstrated this by repeatedly taking ATGW hits to no effect in Iraq last year and it doesn't have a speck of DU in it, AFAIK...
Besides, DU's not all it's cracked up to be. The Challenger 2 is rated as the best protected tank in the world and demonstrated this by repeatedly taking ATGW hits to no effect in Iraq last year and it doesn't have a speck of DU in it, AFAIK...
To reinforce, AD is correct, you cannot retro fit DU to a platform and you cannot weld it to existing armour.Aussie Digger said:
Dorchester armour is regarded as being superior to DU, the US went to a DU solution as Dorchester (and earlier Chobham) was not provided to the US for the Abrams. The Abrams armour is a hybrid.
The Chally 2 is regarded as the best protected tank in the world for very good documented reason.