Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force Thread

SolarisKenzo

Well-Known Member
Things can work out even in western countries.
Look at Italy or France, but also Germany (for subs).

Fincantieri is currently building 3x U-212NFS simultaneously in La Spezia. Next year the fourth one will begin construction, allowing for one SSK delivered every year.
Riva Trigoso built 12 FREMMs and 7 PPAs, basically 19x 6000+ tonnes frigates in 11 years with 2 more being built of a new version.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group

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If Japan able to shown their rail gun barrel is dependable even after that 120 firing threshold, then this can be the answer for swarm of missile intercept answer including the Hypersonic ones.
 

downunderblue

Active Member

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If Japan able to shown their rail gun barrel is dependable even after that 120 firing threshold, then this can be the answer for swarm of missile intercept answer including the Hypersonic ones.
Apparently "it achieves a muzzle velocity of 2,500 metres per second ... with sustained firing of 120 rounds without barrel degradation — a feat that addresses one of the major limitations faced by previous US attempts to field similar systems.

The weapon is reported to fire two types of projectiles: a single-body steel dart and a composite armour-piercing round, each weighing about 320 grams and 16 cm in length"
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The range is estimated at 30NM, or 56km.

To put that into perspective the Rheinmetall Rh-120 L/44 120mm smoothbore gun of a Leopard 2A6 firing a APFSDS has a muzzle velocity 1650 m/s and approx maximum engagement range 4km.

I formed the conclusion that getting hit by the JMSDF rail gun is gunna hurt ...
 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
It will interesting to see how the metallurgy that replaced copper stands up. Hopefully the rare earth components don't come from China! ;)
 

swerve

Super Moderator
Apparently "it achieves a muzzle velocity of 2,500 metres per second ... with sustained firing of 120 rounds without barrel degradation — a feat that addresses one of the major limitations faced by previous US attempts to field similar systems.

The weapon is reported to fire two types of projectiles: a single-body steel dart and a composite armour-piercing round, each weighing about 320 grams and 16 cm in length"
.

The range is estimated at 30NM, or 56km.

To put that into perspective the Rheinmetall Rh-120 L/44 120mm smoothbore gun of a Leopard 2A6 firing a APFSDS has a muzzle velocity 1650 m/s and approx maximum engagement range 4km.

I formed the conclusion that getting hit by the JMSDF rail gun is gunna hurt ...
Naah. You'll never feel it. ;)
 

spoz

The Bunker Group
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It is, however, a tiny projectile - about the size of a conventional 20mm. Which can fire many more than120 rounds before it has barrel issues and has a much smaller mount and power requirement. So an interesting development which will bear watching, but still seemingly a long way from being a significant contributor to combat power.
 

Volkodav

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
It is, however, a tiny projectile - about the size of a conventional 20mm. Which can fire many more than120 rounds before it has barrel issues and has a much smaller mount and power requirement. So an interesting development which will bear watching, but still seemingly a long way from being a significant contributor to combat power.
Depending on accuracy it could be an effective, last ditch, counter to hypersonic and ballistic missiles. A burst of a couple if rounds from a couple of escorting platforms, or even the targeted platform could work.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group
Depending on accuracy it could be an effective, last ditch, counter to hypersonic and ballistic missiles.
This is seems what the Japanese aim as primary motive. Land and Sea attack seems are additions functions. However firing on Hypersonic on terminal velocity and Re-entry ballistic missiles always have very short windows. This seems going to depend on AI base calculation to determine all possible terminal angles.

Thus asside on the hardware, the software development is going to be interesting to see.
 
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