Israel Works on Missiles for India
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mysterious
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Indus said:
did I say they werent? :smokingc: lol...why r u so hyped up? just because I said something abt Indian stuff being israeli n russian? lol chill man! its a known fact :cop
India certainly has an indigenous ability to build ballistic missiles. As for nuke development, it's a bit of a stretch to say that they couldn't do it themselves either.mysterious said:
It's an unhelpful comment, but seeing your thread was posted before your last warning, I assume that you won't be delivering such "pearlers" in future.
Not hyped up, just wanted to correct your exaggerations. Agni I, II, III are indigenous.. prithivi series may be based on other designs, but it most certainly is not imported and renamed, unlike Pakistani missiles.. As far as nuclear development, surely that involved substantial Russian assistance..
This new Israeli missile should definitely provide a boost for India's short-range capabilities.. The Prithvi is great in terms of payload/wt ratio.. for such a short-range (250km) missile, it packs quite a punch.. 1000kg payload.., but im not sure how great the accuracy is.
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:cop :cop No more biting thanks gents, back to the discussion on technical issues. :cop :cop
Mukul, can you show me some links please? All my databases show Privthi as being a combination propellant.mukul said:
Faisal_Masud
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All the publications made by FAS are based on the conconcted stories published by US newspapers.So don't believe on these stupid things published by FAS.
If you are responding to a poster then make sure they know who it is you are responding to.Faisal_Masud said:
For the record, I don't use FAS or Global Security etc as they are data scrapers. However, in their defence, they don't use info just from US sources either, they access all available info including countries of origin.
Don't generalise, it's a dangerous past-time and will lead to unwanted misunderstandings and conflict on here.
If people use FAS etc then it is fine, they have made an attempt. Although some data may be inaccurate, it is not the posters fault as they post in good faith.
Comments such as your post are not helpful and I would suggest that you change your approach.
Roger Smith
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:? :helpFaisal_Masud said:
Do you have any other reliable source? :? :smokingc:
The difficulty is that FAS tries to provide information for free - so it relies on reliable other free sources. Some of these are right, some are wrong. You just need to be careful quoting them. Even Janes gets it wrong now and then.
I tend to have access to other sources not in the public domain - thats the difficulty.
I tend to have access to other sources not in the public domain - thats the difficulty.
mysterious
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Yeah. I agree with what u're tryin to say gf. Thats pretty true! :smokingc:
Well First of all Privthi is not based on US Scout Missile , infact it is based on Russian From Russian SA-2. Army missile.gf0012 said:
Last tested on April 29, 2003 from a site in eastern Orissa state. A defense ministry spokesman deemed it successful. This version of the missile has "the latest on-board computer and navigation system and can use both solid and liquid propellant
http://www.ceip.org/files/projects/npp/resources/ballisticmissilechart.htm
India tests nuclear-capable Prithvi missile
By Jatindra Dash, Indo-Asian News Service
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Bhubaneswar, Jan 23 (IANS) India Friday successfully test-fired the nuclear-capable surface-to-surface Prithvi (Earth) missile from a range in coastal Orissa state, defence sources said.
The 8.5-metre-high and one-metre-thick missile, mounted on a mobile launcher, was fired from the integrated test range at Chandipur in Balasore district, 229 km from here, at about 2.39 p.m., the sources said.
The test was successful and the missile hit its target accurately, they said.
Equipped with the latest on-board computer and an advanced inertial navigation system, Prithvi is propelled by a mix of solid and liquid fuels.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/040123/43/2b3hu.html
Mukul, I'm not going to get into a competition with you. (Look at your own post - its a dual fuel system - which is what I tried to point out to you before - it is NOT a solid fuel missile.
In 2001 I was a delegate at a Land Warfare Conference which had Ballistic Missiles as one of the round table discussions.
The Privthi data was made available, (along with other SRBMs) showing its development path.
This was a military conference, ie a valid security pass access only event, not an "armchair general" or a military hobbyists conference. It involved senior ranking military officers from numerous countries - specialists in their fields of relevant expertise. The guest speaker was an Indian Scientist.
India may publicly want to trace the lineage of the Privthi to something else for whatever reasons it deems fit - the bottom line is that its heritage is based on the Scout.
You may choose whatever sources you want to believe. Personally I will go with the experts, I have far more faith in believing the specialists, ballistic experts and uniforms than some article that deals with technology in the public domain.
Its a no brainer for me.
I think you should start to recognise the fact that there are experts - and then there are other "armchair" experts.
BTW, The most senior scientist in Australia dealing with ballistics and kinetic energy weapons is an Indian born naturalised Australian.
In 2001 I was a delegate at a Land Warfare Conference which had Ballistic Missiles as one of the round table discussions.
The Privthi data was made available, (along with other SRBMs) showing its development path.
This was a military conference, ie a valid security pass access only event, not an "armchair general" or a military hobbyists conference. It involved senior ranking military officers from numerous countries - specialists in their fields of relevant expertise. The guest speaker was an Indian Scientist.
India may publicly want to trace the lineage of the Privthi to something else for whatever reasons it deems fit - the bottom line is that its heritage is based on the Scout.
You may choose whatever sources you want to believe. Personally I will go with the experts, I have far more faith in believing the specialists, ballistic experts and uniforms than some article that deals with technology in the public domain.
Its a no brainer for me.
I think you should start to recognise the fact that there are experts - and then there are other "armchair" experts.
BTW, The most senior scientist in Australia dealing with ballistics and kinetic energy weapons is an Indian born naturalised Australian.
1) don't be insulting or you will have an incredibly short forum life.mukul said:
2) your posts talk about dual capability - not mine
3) I guess I will take your comments as being far more accurate than a room of 250 weapons specialists dealing with ballistic and tactical missiles?
I guess the Indian ballistics specialist has no idea what he is talking about either. I'll have to remind the conference organisers that he was providing inapprop information and that we were all misled. :eek
This is my last on this as it is apparent that you are unwilling to hear anything that does not conform to what you read in the papers or on the net.
As I said before. my faith in the information received at a land warfare conference is a bit more solid than your persistent attempts to promote your own vision.
Now assuming that India has redesigned the missile to become solid rather than liquid, then I think I'll wait to have it confirmed through work related sources rather than a media spin.
Redesigning an SRBM to go from liquid to solids is a significant and cumbersome step. There are BETTER ways to go about it.
mysterious
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C'mon mukul. Dont tell me you wana argue with gf. Atleast I'll go with gf's side of the arguement :smokingc: