aint that for sure, A Mark 48 ADCAP has a ~300 Kg warhead.
Is Hoot really worth worying about?
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SAS is completely right. Mk-48 - 295 kg vs. VA-111 (Russian version of Hoot) - 210 kg. Not to mention the Russians proved at one time that it could carry a nuclear warhead. Something Iran is working at. Nuclear weapons that is.... I am not saying they will definitely put a nuke on this weapon.
If they used them in the mines such as the PMK-2, that is where they would be most dangerous. All you need to do is make the carrier lean a little and it is incapable of launching planes. Mission successful.
If they used them in the mines such as the PMK-2, that is where they would be most dangerous. All you need to do is make the carrier lean a little and it is incapable of launching planes. Mission successful.
You would know more about manuevers then. I just know during exercises I would ask the bridge to do something and they would go..... NO!.... LOLI should have been a bit clearer and said that "haven't we all" referred to being in the Gulf more than once, but not on an aircraft carrier in my case.
Navigational and warfare officer on various British auxiliaries. More than a few SoH transits as OOW/OOD.
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Probably related to other shipping in the vicinity, especially if following the Straits TSS. Assuming you weren't launching or recovering aircraft at the time, in which case that would be another reason not to perform exercise evasive manoeuvres. Or could be TTWs. All of those are (semi-)artificial constraints that would be treated differently for a real threat.
US Aircraft Carriers are designed to withstand at least four torpedo hits of the Mk 48 type and still continue at full operating capacity. The visual that you mentioned though spectacular is not fully applicable in the case of Aircraft Carriers. The destroyer braking in half was caused by the bubble jet phenomena. What happens is that the torpedo explodes in the water some distance below the ship creating a very large bubble which causes the ship to rise above its previous position. Since there is no longer enough water below the keel to provide buoyancy to support it, then on the downward movement of the hull the ships brakes apart when it’s entire wait is supported only at its ends.
This does not apply in the case of Aircraft Carriers because they are not only built to be far stronger but more importantly because they are so very big. The bubble jet will not raise the Aircraft Carrier very much because of it vastly greater mass compared to the torpedoes explosion and the bubble formed beneath it will only cover a small percentage of the area below keel because the keel is so large that most of the ships is still supported.
The way to go after a ship like an Aircraft Carrier is by direct hits which require multiple hits to take a heavily armored and compartmented ship out of the action.
That is a great point. Though don't forget that their are many types of ships out there, and we have already discussed the fact that they wouldn't just launch 1 torpedo and get outta there.
Is the Hoot a danger if they launch one torpedo at a ship.....? Not nearly as much as if they launch a few torpedos, a dozen or so missiles, and hundreds of small boats with RPGs and rockets in a mined area. These are the exercises that they are doing, not one launch and gone.
Hopefully this never happens. I hope that there is a peaceful ending to it all. While these toys we talk about are cool, using them in a real situation only results in death and sadness.
Is the Hoot a danger if they launch one torpedo at a ship.....? Not nearly as much as if they launch a few torpedos, a dozen or so missiles, and hundreds of small boats with RPGs and rockets in a mined area. These are the exercises that they are doing, not one launch and gone.
Hopefully this never happens. I hope that there is a peaceful ending to it all. While these toys we talk about are cool, using them in a real situation only results in death and sadness.