Ireland to buy Javelin Anti-Tank Weapon System
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Jap, because during this 10 years they have a AT capability for their light infantry forces which is much much cheaper to operate than a specialised vehicle, much better to deploy and they are able to carry some AT capability with them even while they are on a patrol with light armored vehicles, jeeps, etc.
A specialised vehicle would be the next step to increase the firepower of peacekeeping forces and is not able to substitute a portable ATGM.
Just for comparison, modern 120mm ammo is up to 20 years operable.
A specialised vehicle would be the next step to increase the firepower of peacekeeping forces and is not able to substitute a portable ATGM.
Just for comparison, modern 120mm ammo is up to 20 years operable.
Yes, since Javelins will be sold via FMS. Test firing two to three missiles per year will consume the original order, with new missile replacements being purchased as expended.
Irealand, like New Zealand, has faced tanks in their peacekeeping missions recently, without any ablility to attack the tanks except for calling in close air support. The costs of having a modern ATM capability for their light infantry forces is not a budget breaker. One LAV costs more than a minimium Javelin order.
Furthermore, having already acquired the Javelin system, these countries will move to the front of the acquisition line buying more when necessary. If their 12 launchers are deemed not enough in the future, more launchers and missiles can be easily added at a later date.
Since Ireland doesn't have any tank forces or fighter/bombers in its inventory, Javelins is probably their best route to an anti-tank capabality for their armed forces, without buying tanks.
Irealand, like New Zealand, has faced tanks in their peacekeeping missions recently, without any ablility to attack the tanks except for calling in close air support. The costs of having a modern ATM capability for their light infantry forces is not a budget breaker. One LAV costs more than a minimium Javelin order.
Furthermore, having already acquired the Javelin system, these countries will move to the front of the acquisition line buying more when necessary. If their 12 launchers are deemed not enough in the future, more launchers and missiles can be easily added at a later date.
Since Ireland doesn't have any tank forces or fighter/bombers in its inventory, Javelins is probably their best route to an anti-tank capabality for their armed forces, without buying tanks.
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Aussie Digger
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Plus Ireland would be able to quickly acquire greater numbers of missiles AND launchers from the UK or USA in an emergency. It's a bit hard to introduce additional armoured vehicles in a matter of days if not hours...Sea Toby said:
Perhaps instead of discussing armoured vehicle options for Ireland, we should be discussing acquisition of an armed recon helicopter for Ireland's forces? Such a capacity would not have to be a dedicated gunship, but something more like the US Army's new Bell 407 based ARH.
Something that can conduct transport/utility missions as well as recon/fire support missions as required...
Perhaps the 407 itself or an armed variant of the EC-635???
It would be nice for the troops to have some organic air cover/recon ability. But we never operate on our own and are always imbedded with other (better equiped) UN troops.
We do operate Scorpion light tanks in a infantry support/recon role, and the Mowag Piranha has been introduced, i think there called LAV's in the states.
The Javlein is a very welcome addition to the inventory, and fits into our force structure, an MBT for Irish troops would be like titts on a Bull.
Irish troops are light infantry, with the Irish Army Rangers, being patterned on the US Rangers.
Ah, ok. I thin I got it.
Thanks.
In my opinion a MBT for Ireland would also mean total overkill. Maybe an integrated ATGM system into their Phiranas to increase their abilities but nothing more.
What kind of artillery or mortar system does Ireland uses?
Thanks.
In my opinion a MBT for Ireland would also mean total overkill. Maybe an integrated ATGM system into their Phiranas to increase their abilities but nothing more.
What kind of artillery or mortar system does Ireland uses?
105mm L118 & L119 Howitzers, and 81mmLBLM and 120mm mortars.
RBS 70 manpads system, for close air support.
84mm Carl Gustaf anti-tank & 84mm MILAN anti-tank systems & the aforementioned Javlein.
The FN MAG and M2 Machine Guns, and the Steyr AUG A1.
And thats about it folks. Not exacty terrifying.
RBS 70 manpads system, for close air support.
84mm Carl Gustaf anti-tank & 84mm MILAN anti-tank systems & the aforementioned Javlein.
The FN MAG and M2 Machine Guns, and the Steyr AUG A1.
And thats about it folks. Not exacty terrifying.
PlasmaKrab
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Don't forget the Piranha-IIIs that are still being delivered AFAIK.
And what about the old Scorpions? Is there somethign scheduled to replace them? If not, how about a Piranha-III with the MGS turret?
And what about the old Scorpions? Is there somethign scheduled to replace them? If not, how about a Piranha-III with the MGS turret?
MGS turret?
Whats that?
ah yes the scorpion, what are they 35 years old... we'd be better off with some IVF's, I fancy those swedish CV90's
coming in at 2.65 million there quite reasonable, I see you can mount a 120 mm gun! instant MBT! and its got a low profile too, kind of like the Irish army
MGS
Ah just checked it out, looks like a big fat target, designed for turret seperation
Whats that?
ah yes the scorpion, what are they 35 years old... we'd be better off with some IVF's, I fancy those swedish CV90's
coming in at 2.65 million there quite reasonable, I see you can mount a 120 mm gun! instant MBT! and its got a low profile too, kind of like the Irish army
MGS
Ah just checked it out, looks like a big fat target, designed for turret seperation