Iran planning to send ships to the Atlantic Coast

JTF-2

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Hmmm....trying to make a statement I see

Dam, I can't post links, yet... :bum

So go to cnn and the world tab, to see the link.

This sucks...haha
 

Feanor

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I'd be more scared of aliens landing, then of Iranians landing, on the west coast. I don't think it would qualify as a casus belli, but then the US coastline is very well defended so it's not like Iran could enter territorial waters without getting blasted.
 

Belesari

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Eh we could but we wont. Considering that Irans newest homebuilt destroyers are about as powerful as most navies patrol vessels.....

This is more news made for domestic and like minded nations consumption.

People thought the Russians sending ships to the gulf of mexico to visit Ven. a couple years ago was something we were going to wig out on but we didnt.

Really over all its a waste of resources for the iransians for a political stunt.

that is a threat for US and i think US doesn't let Iran do that...
US can count it as a war cause...
 

AegisFC

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that is a threat for US and i think US doesn't let Iran do that...
US can count it as a war cause...
No it isn't and no they can't as long as the Iranians stay in international waters and don't cause any trouble.
 

Feanor

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No it isn't and no they can't as long as the Iranians stay in international waters and don't cause any trouble.
Well if we use the Bush doctrine... :D

Seriously though, I'd be surprised if they actually go through with it. It seems like one of those "Oh hoho! I have a ship!" moments. I suppose they could visit Venezuela, like the article suggests, but that's hardly newsworthy. It wasn't a big deal when Russia sailed a nuclear powered (and armed) battleship, and flew strategic bombers, to Venezuela. An Iranian patrol boat would matter even less.
 

colay

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Its a free ocean up to a point. If I were the USN, I'd welcome the opportunity to extend a warm welcome to the Iranians and give them a nice escort while they are in the neighborhood.
 

ThePuss

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Well if we use the Bush doctrine... :D

Seriously though, I'd be surprised if they actually go through with it. It seems like one of those "Oh hoho! I have a ship!" moments. I suppose they could visit Venezuela, like the article suggests, but that's hardly newsworthy. It wasn't a big deal when Russia sailed a nuclear powered (and armed) battleship, and flew strategic bombers, to Venezuela. An Iranian patrol boat would matter even less.

Surly you mean Iranian Battleship!.....:loony

If they do send one of their "Battleships" it will be purely for internal internal PR gloating rights...sad really :haha
 

swerve

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that is a threat for US and i think US doesn't let Iran do that...
US can count it as a war cause...
Don't be silly. The USA strongly upholds the principle of freedom of navigation, as it is to the advantage of the USA. This means, of course, that it can't (& doesn't) object to other countries exercising their right of freedom of navigation.

The USA would watch & follow any Iranian ship, but otherwise do nothing - exactly as it does with Russian aircraft.
 

fretburner

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From that picture, I think the Bertholf would sink that "Battleship" :)

I think the USN already said they're all for it... freedom of the seas and all that.
 

StevoJH

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From that picture, I think the Bertholf would sink that "Battleship" :)

I think the USN already said they're all for it... freedom of the seas and all that.
Bertholf if equiped with a missile carrying helicopter, yes.

Betholf by herself? I wouldn't want to take that bet. The frigate has antiship missiles if it can detect bertholf at sufficient range.
 

STURM

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that is a threat for US and i think US doesn't let Iran do that... US can count it as a war cause...
What complete nonsense............. First of all Iran, like any other country, has the right to send it's vessels anywhere as long as they are in international waters and do not engage in hostile acts. Secondly, how do a few Iranian vessels off the U.S. coast pose a threat???? By your logic, Iran and the U.S should have been at war a long time ago as USN ships have been operating in the Gulf, off the Iranian coast, for decades.
 

Real-lifeSailor

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For some reason I seriously doubt that Iran would be greeted in a place like Norfolk or Pensacola with friendship. And referencing another earlier post in regards to US Coastal defense, while I can't speak to the particulars (being limited in my knowledge of the subject), it is unlikely that they would even penetrate the EEZ without coming under some very heavy scrutiny and escort by an Arleigh or Ticonderoga. And it's not like they are going to say "No" to an AEGIS. :hehe Sturm also raises a valid point in referencing Freedom of Navigation. Unfortunately, it is rather doubtful that Iran would actually be able to execute due to the severe lack of logistical capability and limited resources. Where would their ship refuel and take on stores? From what I've seen of them, they are rather content to stay in the Arabian and harass any surface vessels in the vicinity. Unlikely they will venture outside the Straights of Hormuz anywhere in the near future.
 

StevoJH

The Bunker Group
1. Diplomacy might surprise you

2. Why would they get an escort? Giving them an escort would just give them ammunition. If they did get a follower, a Coast Guard cutter in its law enforcement role would be a better choice.

3. Doubt supplies would be an issue, worst comes to worst they take their tanker with them.

4. From memory they sent a Frigate through Suez a couple of months ago into the med actually.
 

fretburner

Banned Member
Bertholf if equiped with a missile carrying helicopter, yes.

Betholf by herself? I wouldn't want to take that bet. The frigate has antiship missiles if it can detect bertholf at sufficient range.
I googled some more and that ship has SM-1s?!
 

JTF-2

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I would think, that this is purely an internal operation for the Iran Navy. And more and likely will have little affect other than diplomaticly, and even that would be minor.

The statement they are trying to make is only for them I believe.
 
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