Iran New Fighter Jet
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Saeqeh-80
Sa'eqeh-80, an advanced twin finned, twin-engined fighter in the class of the YF-17/F-14.The Sa'eqeh-80 is expected to make it's maiden flight in 2003 and is said to be substantially different from any other aircraft in the IRIAF, or anywhere in the world.
Looks like this fighter project has suffered some delays. Many rather think this aircraft is an enlarged, twin engine F-5 rather than a replacement for F-14s. Unfortunately I couldn't find anymore info on this jet.
Sa'eqeh-80, an advanced twin finned, twin-engined fighter in the class of the YF-17/F-14.The Sa'eqeh-80 is expected to make it's maiden flight in 2003 and is said to be substantially different from any other aircraft in the IRIAF, or anywhere in the world.
Looks like this fighter project has suffered some delays. Many rather think this aircraft is an enlarged, twin engine F-5 rather than a replacement for F-14s. Unfortunately I couldn't find anymore info on this jet.
Londo Molari
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Glad to here they have a prototype already!!!
of course all their aircraft programs are very young, so they may go for the JF-17 yet... regardless, Good luck to them!
of course all their aircraft programs are very young, so they may go for the JF-17 yet... regardless, Good luck to them!
Revival_786
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But that wouldn't make a significant difference in case of a direct missile attack, would it? :?
Yep, and it's a bad design. Heaven help any aircraft caught in that HAS. It looks like 1970-80's technology.adsH said:
Shoot the engineer who made it.
interesting to hear this, a country who is isolated by americans has not given up and not only has she survived but has exceled in the field of designing.and producing an AC,wow, hats off to them they ateealy wonderfull and determined people,i was reading the other day that this is the only country in the world which do not have any debt to pay to any one, i mean loans of any kind,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, realy surprising
yasin_khan
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manna is right.
Atleast they have done some thing.i think only three muslims country are able to produce fighter aircrafts.
1.Pakistan with Chineese assistance.
2.Iran(self suficent or Russian assistance)
3.Turkey(USA licensed)
Atleast they have done some thing.i think only three muslims country are able to produce fighter aircrafts.
1.Pakistan with Chineese assistance.
2.Iran(self suficent or Russian assistance)
3.Turkey(USA licensed)
yasin_khan
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but in my opinion they have to do more and i think they are doing well to become self suficient.
May God give them power to become self sufficient in all feilds to defend their country and give enemy hard to strike.
[Edit: Lets keep our religious emotions away from defence discussions]
May God give them power to become self sufficient in all feilds to defend their country and give enemy hard to strike.
[Edit: Lets keep our religious emotions away from defence discussions]
Its tech shud be something making it comparable to the F-20, i dont see how it could be an F-14. :?
It doesnt seem like a 4th Gen Jet to me. just like some one said it looks like F-5 but with twin engines. I think the Iranians have released the prototype version in a hurry to show USA, whose armed forces are in Bordering Iraq, that they are capable of defending them selves and their air space. I dont think this jet stands any chance against any of the Jets being produced in the world except may be with LCA but thats about it. JF-17 would still be in the higher class. So as some ine said JF-17 would be good choice for Iran but I dnt think Pak would risk its Major Non Nato Allie status. Iran has had bad relations with USA, Britian and their relations with Russia have also been some what harsh, so basicaly there is no major jet producing country that can help Iran upgrade this Jet except for China, France and Italy. Relations with Russia have improved but its better they stick with their technology Russian tech have a low life.adsH said:
Any ways the Jet looks very light so I doubt that it would be capable of carrying any heavy missiles also its body seems to be very weak. Hack I bet even Mirage 3 n 5 would be better than this. But lets just wait till it realy comes out of the production line. I am not against Iran but I dont think this jet might be able to protect Iranian air space in case of attack by USA which is now targeting Iran for its nuke capability. With out any doubt USAF F-14s, F-16s and F-18s will bring them down in no time and what ever adsH has written is right in my views, but I pray that it never happens, may Allah protect them and us.
The only good thing I see abt this jet is that it is built by Iranians alone without any Joint venture, and thats not a good thing but a best thing. If they keep it up they will succeed in producing a better Jet InshAllah.
The problem Iran must be facing now is that Iraq is now a USA allie and they are going to get better Jet fighters, so Iran has to do some thing and do it quick. Its more a political move than a deffence.
Londo Molari
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I doubt that. Why would they roll out a prototype to show the USA?
First of all if they have a prototype now, serial production is around 5 years away... While the USA will probably attack in the next 2 years.
And everyone including Iran and USA know that if someone DOES attack Iran, the real defence of Iran is made up of F-14s and S300 SAMs... which have insane range. These indigineous aircraft don't even enter the mix till they are tested and true.
The only kind of message a prototype like this sends is that Iran is working away on trying to be self-sufficient, which is a noble goal.
As for JF-17, it'll probably enter production before the Irani jets, so they might purchase JF-17 after all... And Pakistan will not stop sales at all for some "status" because:
#1) Pakistan has openly considered Iran to be a potential market
#2) China will want to sell to Iran, and any NATO/U.S. pressure on Pakistan is meaningless in front of that
First of all if they have a prototype now, serial production is around 5 years away... While the USA will probably attack in the next 2 years.
And everyone including Iran and USA know that if someone DOES attack Iran, the real defence of Iran is made up of F-14s and S300 SAMs... which have insane range. These indigineous aircraft don't even enter the mix till they are tested and true.
The only kind of message a prototype like this sends is that Iran is working away on trying to be self-sufficient, which is a noble goal.
As for JF-17, it'll probably enter production before the Irani jets, so they might purchase JF-17 after all... And Pakistan will not stop sales at all for some "status" because:
#1) Pakistan has openly considered Iran to be a potential market
#2) China will want to sell to Iran, and any NATO/U.S. pressure on Pakistan is meaningless in front of that
They roll out a prototype to show USA that they are capable of producing their own arms and wont hasitate to put them against USA aggression.Londo Molari said:
I dont think USA would attack Iran in next two years. If democrates are elected than the attack is certainly not going to take place in next 4 yr. Bush is unpredictable fool but if he is elected I doubt that he would attack Iran. Iranians are not like Iraqies they dnt have Sadam to go against.Even Their civilians will pick arms against USA.
As I said they rolled out prototype not to threaten USA or we can say tht it wasnt a deffencive move but rather a political. By this they can even keep the new USA's Iraq on its backfoot aswell.
About JF-17 I still stick with my earlier statement...Pak would hasitate to sell JF-17 so the Iranians will have to go for FC-1 versions at cheap rate with some help from Pak..thats all Pak can do 4 them.
(Anyways Londo Molari I visited ur website downloaded ur MASHs...but how do I use them.)
Londo Molari
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Like I said before, China will want to sell to Iran, and thats far more important to Pakistan than any pressure from the west... China doesn't care about that.
Also, If the Democrats are elected then yes Iran won't be attacked. But if Bush comes back HE WILL GO AFTER IRAN as SOON as possible... It will be his second term. He knows he's not coming back. So then he'll have nothing to lose. Also if he's re-elected, he'll be convinced that the American public supports his psycho invasions. So if Republicans win (which is very possible) then Iran WILL be attacked in the next 2 years... and they know it.
Iran is making progress and so it has a prototype... there is no MESSAGE being sent. They are simply developing their own technologies.
As for my meshes from my website, they are in Lightwave 3D v5.5 format. So you need the software: Lightwave 3D to use them.
Also, If the Democrats are elected then yes Iran won't be attacked. But if Bush comes back HE WILL GO AFTER IRAN as SOON as possible... It will be his second term. He knows he's not coming back. So then he'll have nothing to lose. Also if he's re-elected, he'll be convinced that the American public supports his psycho invasions. So if Republicans win (which is very possible) then Iran WILL be attacked in the next 2 years... and they know it.
Iran is making progress and so it has a prototype... there is no MESSAGE being sent. They are simply developing their own technologies.
As for my meshes from my website, they are in Lightwave 3D v5.5 format. So you need the software: Lightwave 3D to use them.
Iran has become quite good at reverse engineering western/US tech just like Pakistan. This aircraft is nothing more than a twin fin F-5 freedom fighter which was supplied in large numbers to former IIAF. There might be some minor local improvements. It certainly won't be mass produced for Iranian AF let alone exported to any other country.
I think Iran is only trying to improve its remaing fleet of F-5's with some modifications & upgrades and this is not a new aircraft.
Somone posted "just like some one said it looks like F-5 but with twin engines" . This is incorrect cause F-5 has always been a twin engineed light daytime fighter. It was its succesor the failed F-20 which had a single yet more powerful engine.
I think Iran is only trying to improve its remaing fleet of F-5's with some modifications & upgrades and this is not a new aircraft.
Somone posted "just like some one said it looks like F-5 but with twin engines" . This is incorrect cause F-5 has always been a twin engineed light daytime fighter. It was its succesor the failed F-20 which had a single yet more powerful engine.