Indian Tank Ex
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It's a stop gap measure, Arjun turrent on T-72 chasis. It was a concept presented to Army. Couple of prototypes were built and underwent summer trials in 2002. For latest status you may look in Ministry of Defence's annual reports (available online at MOD's website).fylr71 said:
IA should be importing or assembling the T90s in india and mr ARJUN(MBT) should be laid to rest! well it took 30 years and god knows how many crores of rupees went waste to develop a tank which will be outdated as and when its inducted into the army. there are various reasons that makes arjun not to be inducted into the IA. here is my link for further detailed info on arjunaaaditya said:
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Articles/Article46.html
lawdog99999
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hello....
i am new here. can someone post a link to a photo of the indian tank.
i am new here. can someone post a link to a photo of the indian tank.
It's a plan to upgrade the T-72 in IA inventory (around 1700 in service), not a substitute for newer MBTs.n21 said:
India ordered 300 T-90 in 2000 with TOT. In 2006 it was reported that IA ordered 1000 T-90 from OFB (Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF) in Avadi, India). I also read that India further ordered 100 t-90 from Russia to speed up the induction.
T-90 and Arjun totally different animals. Arjun serial production has started and as with any new weapon system is facing some QC/QA problems which will be ironed out.
lawdog99999
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Its A Bit Boxy. Doesn't Look Like It Will Deflect A Sabot Round Very Well.
How often does somebody has to say that modern APFSDS DO NOT BOUNCE OF!
Sorry for that but I don't know how often I have red it in this forum.
The reason for a shaped armor is that it makes the armor thicker because the penetrator has to penetrate more armor due to its entrance angle.
But it is harder to make a shaped turret while using a modern mulit-layered armor. It could also be possible that the layers inside the turret are shaped. So it is a question of technology. You cannot say that one tank is better protected with its shaped turret. The one with the box turret might have a far superior armor compared to the one with a shaped turret that gives you more vantages than having a shaped turret but without the new armor.
The main problem I see is the armor hole the optic causes. Our Leo II up to A4 had the same problem.
Sorry for that but I don't know how often I have red it in this forum.
The reason for a shaped armor is that it makes the armor thicker because the penetrator has to penetrate more armor due to its entrance angle.
But it is harder to make a shaped turret while using a modern mulit-layered armor. It could also be possible that the layers inside the turret are shaped. So it is a question of technology. You cannot say that one tank is better protected with its shaped turret. The one with the box turret might have a far superior armor compared to the one with a shaped turret that gives you more vantages than having a shaped turret but without the new armor.
The main problem I see is the armor hole the optic causes. Our Leo II up to A4 had the same problem.
wasn't shaped armour (or sloped armour) a Russian innovation of WWII era, where by you can get increased armour thickness without increased weight. Arjun has composite armour, as Waylander said, it's not right to compare these.
As for the armour hole near the optics, what are the chances of an AFPDS hitting right at that point? I am sure designers of Leo, Arjun considered these factors and came up with best compromise.
As for the armour hole near the optics, what are the chances of an AFPDS hitting right at that point? I am sure designers of Leo, Arjun considered these factors and came up with best compromise.
lawdog99999
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Is The Top Of The Turrent Armored The Same As The Sides?
I'm Looking For Weaknesses.....
I'm Looking For Weaknesses.....
Easy! Easy there fella. Its OK.Waylander said:
If you want to look at how things richochet LDmulti9 do a google on "Tate's richochet formula" along the lines of
or
( damn how do you get an image on this site???) edit: (still not an img but thanks waylander)
cheers
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@Wooki
Sorry that I sounded a bit too harsh. :sick
But this urban legend has been here so often.
There is an "attachment manager" button below the field were you write the text in. I also had to search for it a while. Before I found it I used imageshack to post pictures. The attachment function makes it a lot easier.
@awdog99999
As the Arjun is a traditional MBT its main armor is on the front (Especially the turret), weaker on the sides and the most weak points are the back and on the top.
@kams
You're right, the principle of shaped armor was invented during WWII and the russians should have been the first to use it in a mass manufactured tank (T-34).
It is the same reason why Tiger crews tried to show the left or right forward corner to the enemy.
Sorry that I sounded a bit too harsh. :sick
But this urban legend has been here so often.
There is an "attachment manager" button below the field were you write the text in. I also had to search for it a while. Before I found it I used imageshack to post pictures. The attachment function makes it a lot easier.
@awdog99999
As the Arjun is a traditional MBT its main armor is on the front (Especially the turret), weaker on the sides and the most weak points are the back and on the top.
@kams
You're right, the principle of shaped armor was invented during WWII and the russians should have been the first to use it in a mass manufactured tank (T-34).
It is the same reason why Tiger crews tried to show the left or right forward corner to the enemy.
lawdog99999
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THANKS WAYLANDER FOR THE INFO.
YOU WEREN'T HARSH...IKNOW YOU GET TIRED OF THE SAME OLD STUFF.
I USED TO PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO KNOWING THIS INFORMATION BUT I GOT MARRIED AND THAT ENDED:eek
YOU WEREN'T HARSH...IKNOW YOU GET TIRED OF THE SAME OLD STUFF.
I USED TO PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO KNOWING THIS INFORMATION BUT I GOT MARRIED AND THAT ENDED:eek