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[Ananda]

India’s fifth-gen fighter AMCA hits new milestone as Rajnath approves its programme execution model

Such projects used to be handed over directly to HAL for manufacturing, without the state-owned firm having to compete with others

indianexpress.com

When I read this, I always wonder why after all this year India still have faith with HAL ? They are late on delivering Tejas Mk1, late with Mk 1A then will definetely late again with Tejas Mk2.

They should let Tata group take over the project. Then again as coming from a country that also keep pushing SOE on strategic projects (no matter how many times those SOE screew up), I also understand why India Administration keep pushing HAL as projects implementor.

 

[Bhartiya sainik]

India’s fifth-gen fighter AMCA hits new milestone as Rajnath approves its programme execution model

Such projects used to be handed over directly to HAL for manufacturing, without the state-owned firm having to compete with others

indianexpress.com

When I read this, I always wonder why after all this year India still have faith with HAL ? They are late on delivering Tejas Mk1, late with Mk 1A then will definetely late again with Tejas Mk2.

They should let Tata group take over the project. Then again as coming from a country that also keep pushing SOE on strategic projects (no matter how many times those SOE screew up), I also understand why India Administration keep pushing HAL as projects implementor.

I'm not defending HAL but its head said that they didn't deliver LCAs bcoz of GE414 engine undelivered. IAF countered that they would have kept the engine-less airframe in storage till engine arrived. HAL didn't seem keen on delivering incomplete jet.
Another observaion is that HAL is not as big as it should be to handle everything - LCA, LCH, ALH, trainer, SU-30 MKI, Jaguar, MiG-29, Mirage-2000, etc.

Our private business tycoons like Tata, Ambani were very keen on bagging deal to make F-16/18 while IAF rejected them. They won't do any R&D even jointly. There are some social, political reasons also. That's why there is an atmosphere of caution for these quick profit oriented "baniya" tycoons.

 

[Bhartiya sainik]

Some new poor quality images of TEDBF have emerged.
It looks like modified Rafale.
Even after IN indicating 5gen TEDBF, AFAIK there is no official response from ADA on it.

 

[Ananda]

private business tycoons like Tata, Ambani were very keen on bagging deal to make F-16/18 while IAF rejected them. They won't do any R&D even jointly. There are some social, political reasons also. That's why there is an atmosphere of caution for these quick profit oriented "baniya" tycoons.

All Private Sectors are having traders mentality first, even the ones that become Industrialist. This especially true in most Global South. However this also means they have mostly better project management mentality then most State Owned Enterprise (SOE).

The bureacrats off course prefer to give projects to SOE that they can control more, and politically always provide better image that government projects goes to their owned business. However that's what makes many SOE throughout Global South have complacent mentality. Whatever their performance are, they will get the job/projects are.

Aerospace industry is very capital and tech incentive. Tata Group already wiling to invest on that industry. Something that only few countries that have private sectors willing to venture in that area. In my opinion India should give then manufacturing projects to compete with HAL. The RnD mostly done through DRDO, and let not all projects goes to HAL. Complacent mentality will only be the results if HAL being guarantee to get most projects. That's already happening in many SOE throughout Asia Global South nations.