Guerrila tactics

marxist_command

New Member
Hey guys,how did it so silent on this page?:(

I 've a challenge for all of u to make some kind of strategy for this situation
y'know guerrila tactics often used when we are outnumbered:flame . So here it goes
Situation :

15 SquaresKilometres area to defend with a small base on the middle :
40 personnel low combat experience
15 AK-47
10 MP-5
3 PSG Sniper
1 M203 + grenade launcher
1 M60 Machine gun
10 glock pistol
about 10 grenade
ammo for max 3 round each

versus

80 Elite troops personnel but low experience on guerrila
the equipment
80 M4A1
2 grenades each
1 combat knife each
ammo for 2 round each

let's say the environment was
Thick Tropical jungle highland, about 500 ASL day temperature 26 night 20.
muddy soil

got the picture?I'm waiting:sleepy2
 

justin_barton3

New Member
that really isnt a fight. the elite troops would win hands down. if the guerilla forces managed not to get engaged in a prolonged combat ie lots of little hit and run type engagements they might do damage out of proportion to their size. but once they got stuck in a big fire fight . it would end very quickly with the elite troops the winner.

1 question. when u say ammo for 3 rounds each do u mean 3 bullets per man?
 

Pathfinder-X

Tribal Warlord
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The key to guerrila warfare is "hit-and-run". I'd be puzzled if the "greens" would choose to defend a particular area and look for a head on fight with professional soldiers. This is a typical wrong scenario with wrong tactics applied.
 

justin_barton3

New Member
true i hadnt read the base in the middle part. if you include then base in he middle then it would be more murder than a war.

justin
 

Waylander

Defense Professional
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The main problem of guerilla forces is not the light infantry which hunts them down. This unit is just the last nail in their coffin.
Being tracked by the opponent is the main problem.
I would think that the light infantry is supported by some kind of air, electronic and satellite reconnaissance.


Despite that this scenario is a little bit strange.
Why should there be an elite infantry unit without any kind of artillery/mortar, air and reconnaissance support?
Why are they defending a base? (This is totally against guerilla way of fighting)
Why are they bound to this small area.(Also not very guerilla like).
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justin_barton3

New Member
the guerillas might be defending a base because as i understand it guerillas usually have a base but fight a long way away from that base so as not to draw the local security forces's attention to their base. maybe the reccoinicance support you refer to was a predator that tracked them back to their base but then had to go and refuel. i think the small area was a way of stopping people from saying the guerillas would just relocate to a different base and carry on guerilla warfare.

i do think that the scenario is rather screwed.

justin
 

Waylander

Defense Professional
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If they would have been tracked by a predator I would just throw a nice little LGB onto them. ;)

Are the guerillas aware of the arrival of their enemys?
 

justin_barton3

New Member
true. i dont really know i was guessing, there are loads of holes in this scenario. maybe the guerilla base is a widely spread group of tents.

justin
 

Waylander

Defense Professional
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Then use a JSOW or cluster bomb. :D

Ok, I know I'm not funny. Sorry for that but I wasn't able to withstand. ;) :dbanana
 

Waylander

Defense Professional
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Do you know the videos of LGBs/JDAMs, etc. hitting houses in Iraq in which hostile forces were expected?
Now try to imagine what would happen with many, many houses near the hostile one if you drop a MOAB on it. :flame
You can do that in a jungle were no civilians are near the impact point but not in cities.

Despite that I thought MOABs are more a way of clearing landing zones for airmobile assaults, evacs, etc. in heavy wood terrain.

Edit: Arrrgh, too late. :)
 

RubiconNZ

The Wanderer
True

Sorry if I wasn't clear but I meant in the formations out of the city, obviously with the international community of (insert derrogatry label here) were just itchin at the chance to criticise the coalition of the willing.

but I guess they probably would of used it if it was possible without civvie casulties, and AFAIK while those would be fantastic uses of it, use against a prepared infantry possistion would be highly effective, over pressure? alone should be highly effective in rendering the targets "ineffective."
 

justin_barton3

New Member
they have to be delivered by hercules so maybe they didnt want any of those being shot down. also the regular bombs did the job just fine so why waste taxpayers money more than nessecery.

justin
 

DoC_FouALieR

New Member
It is not precised in the scenario if the soldiers are aware that there is guerillas in the area and the presence of civilian.
In the "best" case for guerillas, they just have to wear civilian cloathes and they have to make booby traps with their grenades, however, if they are unexperienced, it should be hard for them... can we introduce an Al-Quaida trainer/demo man?
 

marxist_command

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justin_barton3 said:
they have to be delivered by hercules so maybe they didnt want any of those being shot down. also the regular bombs did the job just fine so why waste taxpayers money more than nessecery.

justin
Man, it never enter my mind, okay, how about there are important VIP held captive in the base?

BTW the area was jungle, is it possible to use airlift?
 

gf0012-aust

Grumpy Old Man
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Waylander said:
Despite that I thought MOABs are more a way of clearing landing zones for airmobile assaults, evacs, etc. in heavy wood terrain.
aren't you thinking of the "daisycutter"?
 
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