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Sandhi Yudha

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Remarkable that they plan it to launch from Norway, you will expect they try to lauch it as close to the equator as possible. If Kourou is too far away, at least in the southern part of Spain, Italy or Greece.
 

kato

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Remarkable that they plan it to launch from Norway, you will expect they try to lauch it as close to the equator as possible. If Kourou is too far away, at least in the southern part of Spain, Italy or Greece.
For polar orbit launches, which are far more common for smallsats, the latitude doesn't matter.

In general for Europe finding sites from where rockets do not overfly (and drop stages over) inhabited territory is virtually impossible. There's one proposal for a spaceport in the Canary Islands which would be at the same latitude as Cape Canaveral, but even that would be limited to polar orbits of a certain inclination.
 

SolarisKenzo

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Remarkable that they plan it to launch from Norway, you will expect they try to lauch it as close to the equator as possible. If Kourou is too far away, at least in the southern part of Spain, Italy or Greece.
Spain, Italy and Greece are as far from the equator as New York city is.
 

kato

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There's technically the proposed spaceport near Taranto in Italy (Feasibility Study), but that one was intended for horizontal launch of spacecraft like Virgin Galactic's SpaceCraftTwo (and is unlikely to actually ever go beyond that feasibility study).

Realistically there's a lot of such proposals which invariably die at some point.

It's unlikely that in the foreseeable future there's either a commercial need nor sufficient support for further spaceports in Europe beyond Esrange/Andoya (those are only 230 km apart anyway).
 

John Fedup

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There's technically the proposed spaceport near Taranto in Italy (Feasibility Study), but that one was intended for horizontal launch of spacecraft like Virgin Galactic's SpaceCraftTwo (and is unlikely to actually ever go beyond that feasibility study).

Realistically there's a lot of such proposals which invariably die at some point.

It's unlikely that in the foreseeable future there's either a commercial need nor sufficient support for further spaceports in Europe beyond Esrange/Andoya (those are only 230 km apart anyway).
How about a lease deal with Cuba for a launch pad? Gives another for thing Trump and and his Cuban foreign secretary to whine about.
 

SolarisKenzo

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How about a lease deal with Cuba for a launch pad? Gives another for thing Trump and and his Cuban foreign secretary to whine about.
ESA (mainly ASI) operates facilities in Malindi, Kenya, where the Italian space agency built a large offshore launch pad and two ground stations in the 60s.

Both ground facilities are being used to this day, but the launch pad is not fit for modern rockets and would need an overhaul.

 

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SolarisKenzo

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ESA (mainly ASI) operates facilities in Malindi, Kenya, where the Italian space agency built a large offshore launch pad and two ground stations in the 60s.

Both ground facilities are being used to this day, but the launch pad is not fit for modern rockets and would need an overhaul.


Also, I mean, the European Space Port in Guyana is so big I really don't see any need for other facilities, apart from the fact that it is very far from mainland Europe.
 

Terran

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How about a lease deal with Cuba for a launch pad? Gives another for thing Trump and and his Cuban foreign secretary to whine about.
That sounds like a great way to sour any post Trump Administration relationships before they begin, get robbed blind by a government that is known for its corruption and incompetence. Well chucking any kind of humanitarian image out the window.

Besides the logistics would be a nightmare. Would probably be easier to launch a rocket off a barge. Then again If you’re willing to spend money the Brazilian Alcântara Space Center is basically open to rent and the French Guiana Space Centre is there too.
 

kato

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P.S. to above: First Spectrum is assembled and ready in Andoya.


The ministries of defense of Germany and Norway also signed a memorandum in December aiming for close cooperation in military use of space facilities. One of the three main points agreed upon is enabling Andoya as a launch base for military payloads on microlaunchers primarily for responsive launches.
 

John Fedup

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That sounds like a great way to sour any post Trump Administration relationships before they begin, get robbed blind by a government that is known for its corruption and incompetence. Well chucking any kind of humanitarian image out the window.

Besides the logistics would be a nightmare. Would probably be easier to launch a rocket off a barge. Then again If you’re willing to spend money the Brazilian Alcântara Space Center is basically open to rent and the French Guiana Space Centre is there too.
Souring a post Trump administration, for many, doesn’t matter, there’s a huge trust issue regardless of who follows and it will take a long time to fix, decades.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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A beautiful launch attempt of a rocket from Isar Aeospace. The launch was in Noorwegen.
 

kato

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