Understand that, but there's more to it than that, just like the Canadian fighter replacement program.
F-35 - International Participation
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Redlands18
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A National Referendum to buy a major Military asset? I can just imagine how well that would work here in Australia..... not
They get much cheaper it may be worthwhile NZ getting a squadron or two.
Finally got too see some F-35As in flight too, very clean, very advanced looking, as well as loud.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
It might not work in many countries accept for China where all referendums issued by the CCP get 99.44% approval.
They are very loud aren't they.
I spent a day near Williamtown recently and there was plenty of air activity from both F/A 18s and F-35s.
The F35s were so much louder - heard them coming from much further away and the noise overhead was - well I won't say deafening, but very significantly loud.
I would not like to live nearby
MB
For the last few weeks they’ve been off from Darwin early, returning around lunch then off again and returning around 1600 daily. They’re in low from the South and deploying landing gear almost on top of my house as they make their final turn to runway 11 and yes in that configuration very loud.
Departure is another level but that’s not on top of me.
I’m glad they’re here doing what they’re supposed to do, people should button up, Darwin has been a military airport before most of these muppets arrived here.
Always the comedian. The noise alone would have the pollies sphincter muscles going on strike. They'd run out of dunny paper in parliament.
Low flying tigers are probably louder to be honest, and the ospreys louder still. The F-35 has a deeper, less piercing sound than the Classic F/A-18s. The thing I had noticed is unless they are taking off I can't actually work out which the F-35s sound is coming from where I can usually pinpoint the hornets pretty quickly.
John Newman
The Bunker Group
Mate, have a look in the RAAF Thread, just put up a video from Exercise Arnhem Thunder.
Cheers,
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
A bit of additional information on the Swiss F-35 acquisition. Apparently two out of 7 council members are opposed to any US jet. Also several left wing opposition parties are demanding yet another referendum. Some reject fighters altogether. Have to say the Swiss acquisition process applied to Canada would make us a dance partner for NZ.
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Citing "Insiders" Swiss Public Television Says The F-35 Has Won The Swiss Air Force Fighter Jet Evaluation
According to a Swiss public television report the Lockheed Martin F-35 is well ahead of its competitors in the race for the next Swiss Air Force fighter.
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FormerDirtDart
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F-35A selectedA bit of additional information on the Swiss F-35 acquisition. Apparently two out of 7 council members are opposed to any US jet. Also several left wing opposition parties are demanding yet another referendum. Some reject fighters altogether. Have to say the Swiss acquisition process applied to Canada would make us a dance partner for NZ.
Citing "Insiders" Swiss Public Television Says The F-35 Has Won The Swiss Air Force Fighter Jet Evaluation
According to a Swiss public television report the Lockheed Martin F-35 is well ahead of its competitors in the race for the next Swiss Air Force fighter.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Great news, more pressure on junior’s government to pick the right jet for the RCAF!
Black Jack Shellac
Active Member
I suspect this will go to referendum again, and end the same way the Gripen bid did several years ago. I am thinking that their military procurement process is even more messed up than Canada's...which is saying a lot. I hope to be proven wrong.
John Newman
The Bunker Group
Yes .... but you have to do the leg work first.
There are pages and pages of information available in the public domain, you just have to look. There is an old saying:
“Google, it’s your friend, use it”
Do a bit of research, educate yourself, then ask specific questions, ok?
Cheers,
Redlands18
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Also recommend if you are interested in Air Combat a read through of the Air Power 101 thread that can be found under Air Force and Aviation on the forums Home Page is a excellent read. It was put together some years ago by Mods and Defence Pros.
We have a set of rules that posters have to follow. Also you are claiming to be a member of the US military, so you had better have proof for such a claim. False claims of military service and stolen valour are something that we don't take kindly too.
And isn’t this driving all the Rafale fanboys around the place, absolutely crazy?
The Swiss have assessed the F-35 as both more capable, cheaper to acquire and 20% or more, cheaper to sustain than any of the other bids...
Ce la vie, mon ami!
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
The sustainment analysis would be interesting to see as this seems to be a sore point with some Congressmen and USAF analysts. No surprise the acquisition cost was superior and no other vendors could match the overall capability.And isn’t this driving all the Rafale fanboys around the place, absolutely crazy?
The Swiss have assessed the F-35 as both more capable, cheaper to acquire and 20% or more, cheaper to sustain than any of the other bids...
Ce la vie, mon ami!