Danish and Canadian Leos in A-stan
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Looks like a danish Leopard A5DK was hit by an IED this morning.
1 dead and 3 wounded.
RIP.
Maybe Denmark now thinks about aquiring the mine protection kit for their Leos very quickly.
At least I hope so for the danish tankmen. The insurgents are now going to know how they can hit a normal A5DK hard.
And I expect the danish tank platoon in A-stan is now down with 1 tank for quite some time.
Again my biggest condolence for the dead and wounded fellow tankmen as well as their friends and families.
1 dead and 3 wounded.
RIP.
Maybe Denmark now thinks about aquiring the mine protection kit for their Leos very quickly.
At least I hope so for the danish tankmen. The insurgents are now going to know how they can hit a normal A5DK hard.
And I expect the danish tank platoon in A-stan is now down with 1 tank for quite some time.
Again my biggest condolence for the dead and wounded fellow tankmen as well as their friends and families.
Yes - this is sad news.Looks like a danish Leopard A5DK was hit by an IED this morning.
1 dead and 3 wounded.
RIP.
Maybe Denmark now thinks about aquiring the mine protection kit for their Leos very quickly.
At least I hope so for the danish tankmen. The insurgents are now going to know how they can hit a normal A5DK hard.
And I expect the danish tank platoon in A-stan is now down with 1 tank for quite some time.
Again my biggest condolence for the dead and wounded fellow tankmen as well as their friends and families.
That must of been one hell of a IED in size, any word or photos as to where the vehicle was hit.
Any word on the performance issue`s inregards to the Marders operating over there.
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Mmmh, without the mine protection kit a Leopard 2A5DK is not more resistable to mines than earlier models or a normal M1A1 Abrams.
Nevertheless you are right that it still needs a big one to do so much damage.
Looks like the Marder 1A5s have no problems with the heat and dust and it evene looks like the heat in the crew compartment is less than expected. Maybe because the add-on armor which was introduced with the A3 leaves some air between it and the main armor.
Nevertheless you are right that it still needs a big one to do so much damage.
Looks like the Marder 1A5s have no problems with the heat and dust and it evene looks like the heat in the crew compartment is less than expected. Maybe because the add-on armor which was introduced with the A3 leaves some air between it and the main armor.
I was stunned to see photos of the Marders in action over there, please keep me posted on any performance issues that may arise. Also, any plans on taking a tank company over there.
Thank you, if something does surface please keep us informed, out of respect for the tank crew and their families if the photos contain images of the crew please do not post these.
Just read about it one hour ago.
RIP
"That must of been one hell of a IED in size, any word or photos as to where the vehicle was hit."
Nope, not yet.
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I try to update you as soon as I get any news.
A tank company?
I would be very puzzled if we get even a platoon of A6M over there. In the end they are not what is needed in northern A-stan. We just operate 5 Marder 1A5 over there and the terrain (unlike the south) is not suited well for heavy tracked vehicles.
What I would like to see is that they acccelerate the CH-53 upgrade and get more of these choppers up there.
Maybe a couple of PzH2000 for immediate fire support in a 40km bubble around the camps would be nice but not crucial.
Getting the 120mm mortar on Wiesel 2 chassis into service and to A-stan might also be good as they offer more capabilities than the current 120mm tampellas made mobile on Wolf (Mercedes G).
A tank company?
I would be very puzzled if we get even a platoon of A6M over there. In the end they are not what is needed in northern A-stan. We just operate 5 Marder 1A5 over there and the terrain (unlike the south) is not suited well for heavy tracked vehicles.
What I would like to see is that they acccelerate the CH-53 upgrade and get more of these choppers up there.
Maybe a couple of PzH2000 for immediate fire support in a 40km bubble around the camps would be nice but not crucial.
Getting the 120mm mortar on Wiesel 2 chassis into service and to A-stan might also be good as they offer more capabilities than the current 120mm tampellas made mobile on Wolf (Mercedes G).
Minimum 5 years down the line. If they find the money.
Official Statement
The official statement translated from Danish to English
25-07-2008 kl. 12:54
AFGHANISTAN: Early Friday morning a tank from the Danish Tankplatoon LOKE hit a mine or improvised explosive (IED). LOKE division assisted Afghan soldiers and their British and U.S. advisers, which had come under fire in the desert north of FOB Attal - the northernmost base in the Danish mission.
LOKE division was on its way from Forward Operating Base (FOB) Armadillo to assist Afghan soldiers and their British and U.S. advisers, which had come under fire in the desert north of FOB Attal - the northernmost base in the Danish mission.
The Danish tankplatoon came under fire and maneuvered in position. During the manoeuvre, one of the tanks hit a mine or IED. One Danish soldier was killed by the explosion and three other soldiers incurred minor injuries. The three with minor injuries were evacuated by helicopter to field hospital in Camp Bastion, and is now under treatment for their injuries.
The official statement translated from Danish to English
25-07-2008 kl. 12:54
AFGHANISTAN: Early Friday morning a tank from the Danish Tankplatoon LOKE hit a mine or improvised explosive (IED). LOKE division assisted Afghan soldiers and their British and U.S. advisers, which had come under fire in the desert north of FOB Attal - the northernmost base in the Danish mission.
LOKE division was on its way from Forward Operating Base (FOB) Armadillo to assist Afghan soldiers and their British and U.S. advisers, which had come under fire in the desert north of FOB Attal - the northernmost base in the Danish mission.
The Danish tankplatoon came under fire and maneuvered in position. During the manoeuvre, one of the tanks hit a mine or IED. One Danish soldier was killed by the explosion and three other soldiers incurred minor injuries. The three with minor injuries were evacuated by helicopter to field hospital in Camp Bastion, and is now under treatment for their injuries.
Update
UPDATE
Translated from Danish to English:
The state of Friday's events
Afghanistan: All Danish soldiers are now back in their respective camps in Helmand province.
25-07-2008 at. 20:30
On patrol
Friday morning Afghan time, is a unit of the Afghan Army (ANA) along with its British advisers on a patrol in the northern part of the Danish responsibility, where the Danish tankplatoon LOKE from Jydske Dragonregiment is provided to support the ANA.
By 7 o'clock Afghan time ANA unit report that they are in a fight with the Taliban and requested air support to protect themselves against the enemy. Two British fighter is shortly after the air over the fighting units, ready to support, if need be.
Danish tank hit a mine
Since the Danish tanks are about to manoeuvre in the area, one tank runs over a mine or an improvised explosive (IED). The tank will continue to drive forward around 200 meters, but then stops. All four crew members on board have come to harm, but the three slightly injured come under its own power out of the damaged tank. The driver can not get out and sit unconscious in the tank.
By 8 o'clock calls LOKE to have MEDEVAC to the injured. At the same time, throwing one of the British fighter a bomb over the enemy positions, which will have the Taliban fire to short to end. However after 15 minutes the enemy fire once again at the Afghan and Danish units, and once again throwing one of the British fighter a bomb. Then cease fire from the hostile position.
Wounded Danish soldiers evacuated
By 0830 landed the helicopter, which must evacuate the wounded soldiers to field hospital at Camp Bastion. About 25 minutes after the helicopter take-off from the area. The driver can not be moved out of the tank and are still without awareness. The Danish doctor on the ground trying to help him. Only by 0930 manages to get him out, he comes under intensive medical treatment on the spot.
Approximately at 0940 reported from the area that contacts with the enemy is over and that the fire has ceased. In the meantime, FENRIS company from Gardehusarregimentet run from FOB Price with a armoured recovery vehicle to be used to tow the damaged tank back to Camp Bastion.
The Danish soldiers life are, unfortunately, not to save, and by 10 o'clock the Danish tank driver is declared death.
Livgarden (The Royal Guards) in battle
ODIN company from Livgarden send one division of up to the Danish units to ensure the salvage of the damaged tank, and reinforce the other units fight in the area. By 12 o'clock the Taliban fires at ODIN in small arms and mortars, while ODIN is on foot patrol in the area around the damaged tank. ODIN receive support from the aircraft in relation to their battle with the enemy.
The Danish Artillery Hunting Radar ARTHUR, which are stationed on the opposite side of the Helmand river, recognize and record the enemy mortar fire, including where the fire is coming from. In light of ARTHURs messages, the building where the enemy attacks come from, is bombed from the air and fire on with artillery, which the hostile activity in the area ceases.
Another mine
By 1300, a second tank from LOKE runs over another mine or an improvised explosive, as LOKE involved in the battle with the enemy, which ODIN company short previously been engaged in. Fortunately, the explosion caused no injuries this time, but lighter material damage.
The armoured recovery vehichle, now promote in the region, together with the unit from FENRIS, get towed both tanks back to the FOB Attal and then further south to the FOB Armadillo.
At 1535 ODIN report to the Danish battleforce operations that contacts with the enemy in the north is over and that the fire has ceased.
All Danish soldiers are now back in their respective camps in Helmand province.
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Sounds very dramatic, hope they are all okay.
UPDATE
Translated from Danish to English:
The state of Friday's events
Afghanistan: All Danish soldiers are now back in their respective camps in Helmand province.
25-07-2008 at. 20:30
On patrol
Friday morning Afghan time, is a unit of the Afghan Army (ANA) along with its British advisers on a patrol in the northern part of the Danish responsibility, where the Danish tankplatoon LOKE from Jydske Dragonregiment is provided to support the ANA.
By 7 o'clock Afghan time ANA unit report that they are in a fight with the Taliban and requested air support to protect themselves against the enemy. Two British fighter is shortly after the air over the fighting units, ready to support, if need be.
Danish tank hit a mine
Since the Danish tanks are about to manoeuvre in the area, one tank runs over a mine or an improvised explosive (IED). The tank will continue to drive forward around 200 meters, but then stops. All four crew members on board have come to harm, but the three slightly injured come under its own power out of the damaged tank. The driver can not get out and sit unconscious in the tank.
By 8 o'clock calls LOKE to have MEDEVAC to the injured. At the same time, throwing one of the British fighter a bomb over the enemy positions, which will have the Taliban fire to short to end. However after 15 minutes the enemy fire once again at the Afghan and Danish units, and once again throwing one of the British fighter a bomb. Then cease fire from the hostile position.
Wounded Danish soldiers evacuated
By 0830 landed the helicopter, which must evacuate the wounded soldiers to field hospital at Camp Bastion. About 25 minutes after the helicopter take-off from the area. The driver can not be moved out of the tank and are still without awareness. The Danish doctor on the ground trying to help him. Only by 0930 manages to get him out, he comes under intensive medical treatment on the spot.
Approximately at 0940 reported from the area that contacts with the enemy is over and that the fire has ceased. In the meantime, FENRIS company from Gardehusarregimentet run from FOB Price with a armoured recovery vehicle to be used to tow the damaged tank back to Camp Bastion.
The Danish soldiers life are, unfortunately, not to save, and by 10 o'clock the Danish tank driver is declared death.
Livgarden (The Royal Guards) in battle
ODIN company from Livgarden send one division of up to the Danish units to ensure the salvage of the damaged tank, and reinforce the other units fight in the area. By 12 o'clock the Taliban fires at ODIN in small arms and mortars, while ODIN is on foot patrol in the area around the damaged tank. ODIN receive support from the aircraft in relation to their battle with the enemy.
The Danish Artillery Hunting Radar ARTHUR, which are stationed on the opposite side of the Helmand river, recognize and record the enemy mortar fire, including where the fire is coming from. In light of ARTHURs messages, the building where the enemy attacks come from, is bombed from the air and fire on with artillery, which the hostile activity in the area ceases.
Another mine
By 1300, a second tank from LOKE runs over another mine or an improvised explosive, as LOKE involved in the battle with the enemy, which ODIN company short previously been engaged in. Fortunately, the explosion caused no injuries this time, but lighter material damage.
The armoured recovery vehichle, now promote in the region, together with the unit from FENRIS, get towed both tanks back to the FOB Attal and then further south to the FOB Armadillo.
At 1535 ODIN report to the Danish battleforce operations that contacts with the enemy in the north is over and that the fire has ceased.
All Danish soldiers are now back in their respective camps in Helmand province.
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Sounds very dramatic, hope they are all okay.
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Oooh, looks like the Taliban knew from where the tanks and other support would start coming and where they would maneuver and prepared the area accordingly.
With one badly damaged and one light damaged tank the heavy response capabilities of the danish continent are badly hurt in this area.
Hopefully they get atleast the second tank back online very fast.
Maybe the Taliban are fed up with the pounding they get everytime the tanks come out to play and decided to target them directly.
I would expect the IED to be either a real AT-mine or a shaped charge IED. I suspect a conventional IED which is big enough to get through the bottom of the tank would shatter it more and not concentrate it's damage mostly at the drivers station.
@Runi_dk
Thanks for the translation.
With one badly damaged and one light damaged tank the heavy response capabilities of the danish continent are badly hurt in this area.
Hopefully they get atleast the second tank back online very fast.
Maybe the Taliban are fed up with the pounding they get everytime the tanks come out to play and decided to target them directly.
I would expect the IED to be either a real AT-mine or a shaped charge IED. I suspect a conventional IED which is big enough to get through the bottom of the tank would shatter it more and not concentrate it's damage mostly at the drivers station.
@Runi_dk
Thanks for the translation.
winnyfield
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There are areas of Helmand where Coalition forces until recently, have not had a presence in quite a while. Big IEDs require a lot of preparation. Also from Iraq, you may cross that IED many times before someone sets it off.
Ramp Ceremony (Danish)
http://forsvaret.dk/HOK/Nyt+og+Presse/ISAF/Ramp+Ceremony.htm
Jesper did not die in vain (Danish)
http://forsvaret.dk/HOK/Nyt+og+Presse/ISAF/Jesper+døde+ikke+forgæves.htm
There is a military funeral of overkonstabel, 1. degree (Lance Corporal, Section Commander) Gilbert Jesper Pedersen on Thursday, 7. august at 11 from Nørresundby Church.
May he rest in peace.
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No more info on the incident has been made puplic since the last stuff I wrote, no photos of the damaged tanks.
http://forsvaret.dk/HOK/Nyt+og+Presse/ISAF/Ramp+Ceremony.htm
Jesper did not die in vain (Danish)
http://forsvaret.dk/HOK/Nyt+og+Presse/ISAF/Jesper+døde+ikke+forgæves.htm
There is a military funeral of overkonstabel, 1. degree (Lance Corporal, Section Commander) Gilbert Jesper Pedersen on Thursday, 7. august at 11 from Nørresundby Church.
May he rest in peace.
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No more info on the incident has been made puplic since the last stuff I wrote, no photos of the damaged tanks.
RIP Gilbert
Your were a entertaining acquaintance. You will be missed.
Thanks for the wild ride in the Piranha.
The halls of Valhalla
Your were a entertaining acquaintance. You will be missed.
Thanks for the wild ride in the Piranha.
The halls of Valhalla
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