Agreed. Watching the videos, it's amazing to watch the lack of organizational at any level. There are videos of individual M2s etc with no supporting IN just sitting in fields alone. No integrated defenses etc. just incompetent and a pathetic loss
Conflict in Yemen
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John Fedup
The Bunker Group
I am guessing this applies to some extent to the princely appointees flying F-15s. The finest kit is worth squat if you have a bunch of arrogant limited ability semi-royals flying them.
Houthis have captured an AMX-30 tank intact.
ХуÑиты захватили ÑаудовÑкий танк AMX-30 - bmpd
Meanwhile there are reports of Columbian mercenaries, Moroccan troops, and even al-Qaeda, all entering the war on the side of the Saudis. There has also been footage of ISIS fighters in Yemen.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/26/w...mbian-mercenaries-to-fight-in-yemen.html?_r=2
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Overall the situation just gets worse and worse.
ХуÑиты захватили ÑаудовÑкий танк AMX-30 - bmpd
Meanwhile there are reports of Columbian mercenaries, Moroccan troops, and even al-Qaeda, all entering the war on the side of the Saudis. There has also been footage of ISIS fighters in Yemen.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/26/w...mbian-mercenaries-to-fight-in-yemen.html?_r=2
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Overall the situation just gets worse and worse.
Somali-Turk
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Yemen is one of the poorest nations in the world even worse then somalia or congo,having said that,the mountains nature of the country makes the yemen conflict drag on for many years to come.
Somali-Turk
New Member
some reporst are saying the saudi navy will be stationed in eritrea coast to protect saudi interests in the horn of africa which is the gateway b.w asia and africa.
already china is going to build a new base in djbouti and there also japanese,american bases already there.
already china is going to build a new base in djbouti and there also japanese,american bases already there.
The governor of Aden, Major General Saad, is reported to have been killed by a VBIED attack on his convoy as he traveled through the Tawahi District of the city to work. ISIS has claimed responsibilty and have promised more assassinations.
Yemen's Aden governor killed in car bombing claimed by Islamic State | Reuters
ISIS and AQAP may be the big winners here as the Houthis and pro Hadi forces get bogged down in a war of attrition. The Saudis may end up with as much of a problem with Sunni militant blowback as with the Shi'a forces they're currently concerned with.
Yemen's Aden governor killed in car bombing claimed by Islamic State | Reuters
ISIS and AQAP may be the big winners here as the Houthis and pro Hadi forces get bogged down in a war of attrition. The Saudis may end up with as much of a problem with Sunni militant blowback as with the Shi'a forces they're currently concerned with.
Somali-Turk
New Member
with the removal of alshabab from the capital and uplifting of the somali security forces,do you think ISIS threat could spill into eastafrica which is also a hotspot recent oil and gas discoveries like tanzania.
how can the USA help the somali security forces in repelling the isis infiltration into the country,recently already is down on the cash department and would do anything to get funds from isis to operate even though they dont enjoy much public support in somalia and kenya.
how can the USA help the somali security forces in repelling the isis infiltration into the country,recently already is down on the cash department and would do anything to get funds from isis to operate even though they dont enjoy much public support in somalia and kenya.
Meanwhile, the UAE has a base in Eretria for striking targets in Yemen. In fact they're using the Asmara international airport, or rather a portion of it, as a base. They've already carried out strikes from there. This is rather strange because only recently Iran was using Eretria as a staging ground for getting weapons to the Houthis. Is there a reason they can't use bases in Saudi Arabia? Do they just not have enough?
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ОÐÐ Ñоздали Ñекретную базу в Ðритрее Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð½Ð°Ð»ÐµÑ‚Ð¾Ð²Ð½Ð° позиции хуÑитов - bmpd
surpreme
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That is right they are not going to win that easy. The Yemen's are fighting hard and doing this with limited force. In modern warfare you have combined arms that attack they doing this with infantry that's it. Now look at the Saudis they have a top air force, armored and infantry force but are not using them correctly. Have the Saudi Armed Forces heard of air assaults? It's no excuse for the Saudi forces not to crush the Yemen forces. If you remember the 2006 Israelis Hezbollah war the Israel did hurt the Hezbollah bad. Hezbollah fought Israelis hard but if Israelis would have unleashed it full forces or in other words a full invasion we all know what would have happen. Can someone tell me is the Saudi going to do a full invasion? Or just sit back hit the Yemen military with dumb tactics.
It's because the Saudis are allies, and any amount of media coverage would immediately uncover that US allies are committing war crimes by intentionally targeting civilian infrastructure. Not to mention that their military performance is embarrassing and the war itself entirely illegal.
Nick underscore
Member
US allies, that maybe so, but this is an Arab-led coalition no?
I don't understand your question... Saudi Arabia is the principal player in this coalition. They're an ally of the US. Media focus on their generally disgusting behavior in Yemen is undesirable. Therefore we have a media blackout. This is nothing new. I noted during the war in Ukraine that youtube deleted pro-rebel videos, and on several occasions blocked peoples accounts who said negative things about Ukraine, but allowed the most foul and vile racist slurs against the rebels or Russians to go unpunished. This is more of the same.
Nick underscore
Member
Agreed.
The Saudi's are the principle lead and they responsible for their own actions in this region. This is supported by the five other GCC states, along with Egypt, Sudan, Morocco & Senegal.
My point is this is primarily an Arab-led coalition, with the US limited to providing intelligence and the ongoing policy of drone strikes on AQAP targets only.
Countries within the coalition maybe allies to the US, but I think linking the words 'US allies' and 'committing war crimes intentionally on civilian targets' is a bit disingenuous to the context of this conflict.
I'm sure certain unreported war crimes are being committed by IRGC (Russian Allies) in the Yemeni region and the Assad govt in Syria for that matter..
Maybe I'm being a pedant..
The Saudi's are the principle lead and they responsible for their own actions in this region. This is supported by the five other GCC states, along with Egypt, Sudan, Morocco & Senegal.
My point is this is primarily an Arab-led coalition, with the US limited to providing intelligence and the ongoing policy of drone strikes on AQAP targets only.
Countries within the coalition maybe allies to the US, but I think linking the words 'US allies' and 'committing war crimes intentionally on civilian targets' is a bit disingenuous to the context of this conflict.
I'm sure certain unreported war crimes are being committed by IRGC (Russian Allies) in the Yemeni region and the Assad govt in Syria for that matter..
Maybe I'm being a pedant..
Maybe my statement seemed to imply more then I meant. I'm not claiming the US is involved if that's what you're asking.
It's interesting since al-Qaeda is also fighting against the Houthis.
GermanHerman
Active Member
Although I would agree to a certain degree I think there is also a rather economical interest that has nothing to do with the US.
We talked about the interest of the german Gov. to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and the problem they have with public opinion regarding the human rights situation in the Syran thread.
I would asume the same would be true for most countrys which don't want to see their economical ties with Riad at risk over such trivial things as human rights violations. It is worriesome though how the press is so clearly political motivated in what they are reporting on and what not.
I think it was actualy Toronto who took back the invitation for ukrainian born pianist Valentina Lisitsa after it was revealed that she was behind a twitter acount debunking western propaganda?
Yep. A rather disturbing occurrence. Someone being penalized professionally for their political views.
Russia still has talks with the Saudis about economic affairs. In other words, you're right, the US is far from the only country in this position. But then Russia hardly has means to impose a media blackout in the west. And in Russian sources the war in Yemen does get coverage. Relatively little and certainly not in the tone that it should be covered in, but things do crop up on a regular basis.
With the ground combat in a bloody stalemate, UN brokered talks between the Houthis and the pro-Hadi coalition are due to begin today (minus the Saudi's and the Gulf states though).
The Houthis claimed to have killed 152 troops in a ballistic missile attack on the Saudi military headquarters in the Bab el-Mandeb region yesterday.
Other sources quote 23 soldiers from Saudi Arabia, nine from the United Arab Emirates and seven from Morocco being killed, along with 42 contractors from Academi, aka Blackwater.
Confirmed fatalities included Col Abdullah al-Sahyan, a Saudi special forces commander, and Sultan al-Kitbi, a senior Emirati officer.
Houthi rebels' attack rocks prospects for Yemen peace talks | World news | The Guardian
https://www.stratfor.com/situation-report/yemen-houthis-attack-saudi-base-ahead-cease-fire
The Houthis claimed to have killed 152 troops in a ballistic missile attack on the Saudi military headquarters in the Bab el-Mandeb region yesterday.
Other sources quote 23 soldiers from Saudi Arabia, nine from the United Arab Emirates and seven from Morocco being killed, along with 42 contractors from Academi, aka Blackwater.
Confirmed fatalities included Col Abdullah al-Sahyan, a Saudi special forces commander, and Sultan al-Kitbi, a senior Emirati officer.
Houthi rebels' attack rocks prospects for Yemen peace talks | World news | The Guardian
https://www.stratfor.com/situation-report/yemen-houthis-attack-saudi-base-ahead-cease-fire
Meanwhile, a large convoy of Saudi arty was seen headed for the front.
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And both Iranian and what appear to be American anti-material rifles show up in Yemen.
North American anti-materiel rifles with Houthi forces in Yemen | Armament Research Services
Iranian AM50 anti-materiel rifle documented in Yemen | Armament Research Services
Саудиты: новые игрушки Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð¹ÐµÐ¼ÐµÐ½Ñкого фронта - Берлога Бронемедведа
And both Iranian and what appear to be American anti-material rifles show up in Yemen.
North American anti-materiel rifles with Houthi forces in Yemen | Armament Research Services
Iranian AM50 anti-materiel rifle documented in Yemen | Armament Research Services
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Prairie Gun Works has an Arabic brochure for their Timberwolf 338. Must have been dropped by Saudis.