Sandhi Yudha
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Thank you for sharing.
(But the Hr.Ms. Piet Hein F811 is actually a 130,5 meter long Kortenaer /S-klasse frigate.)
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(But the Hr.Ms. Piet Hein F811 is actually a 130,5 meter long Kortenaer /S-klasse frigate.)
Thanks for that, I will admit I guessed the class.
Redlands18
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All the M Class are actually still in service, 2 each in the Dutch, Chilean, Belgian and Portuguese Navies. First of class(originally the Karl Doorman) only just hitting the 30 year mark, so a few more NMs in them yet.
They bought 2 frigates for conversion, the second vessel is taking a bit longer, the project name is Swift 135.
Looking at the scale of the rebuilding I think it very likely that it would have been cheaper to build from scratch.
From one of the comments -
Apparently the M class have the reputation of rolling on wet grass.
I could not image this was cost effective at all. The scope of the changes were such that it must have cost at lese as much as a new build (I suspect more) added to which a lot of the hull is 'well worn'. If they kept the machinery to save costs that would pretty used as well.
They would have installed stabilisers when she was rebuilt.
In one of the links it was said that the machinery had been replaced. Doesn't sound like there's much left of the original except the hull, & even that appears to have been heavily modified.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Awesome film. Great ship for green transportation but really can't see finding sailors like those in the film, especially the captain.
If you can find a copy “The Last Grain Race” by Eric Newby is a fascinating read with many wonderful photos included.
You say we can’t find “sailors like those” anymore but I’m not so sure.
Newby is an 18yr old city slicker who was bored so he signed on to “Moshulu” as an Apprentice for a year long voyage from Belfast to the South Australian Gulfs, Spencer and St Vincent’s, to load 5,000 tons of bagged wheat and return to the UK where they arrive as WW2 is beginning.
The oldest member of the 28 man crew was 58, the sailmaker. The Skipper was 35 and the average age of the crew was 19!
These young men were constantly changing sails weighing up to 1.5tons each and doing it 130ft above the deck in rough weather whilst sailing around both Capes during the voyage.
The only mechanical appliance on the ship was the “donkey” a basic winch which lifted out ballast (4,000 tons of it (now you know where that chart annotation “Ballast Ground” comes from) and loaded wheat whereafter it was disassembled.
If you want to know what life was like on these ships it’s well worth your time.
The Last Grain Race - Wikipedia
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The ports in St Vincent’s and Spencer gulfs were too shallow to load alongside, the large ships would anchor out and the wheat was loaded into gulf ketches which carried the grain out AdelaideAZ you can see one being loaded in your video which was a nice find.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Here’s the modern concept for a tall ship, wonder what the crew of Peking would think?
www.goodnet.org
This Giant Sailboat Will Transport Cars Across the Atlantic Ocean - Goodnet
The OceanBird could change cargo shipping.
www.goodnet.org
Thanks. They were real sailors in those days.
I was watching the seas wash across the deck of the Peking in the storm and as she was in the Southern Ocean. If you got caught in that you were fish tucker. I for one wouldn't be wanting to climb the rigging, even tied up alongside on a dead calm day - I don't like heights. But watching those sailors working on the yards with apparent ease, it was awe inspiring.
I didn't like the way the Capt treated his dog, but then using the dog to hurry the ODs up I laughed my head off at. Dog would've made a good GI. Wouldn't wanted to be the OD who was mess cook when the roughers were real bad. He wouldn't be very popular if he lost the scran between the galley and the mess. Betcha they had a good run ashore when they arrived in Chile.
Sandhi Yudha
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A quite serious accident happened a couple of days ago in Jordania.
Here there are more videos from different angles taken by different people.
Here there are more videos from different angles taken by different people.
There's a cargo ship adrift off the coast of Sydney, Australia, due to lack of power. The crew have managed to drop wo anchors with a ship about 1km off the rocky coast. Sydney and surrounding areas is being hit by severe flooding at the moment with a slow moving deepening low pressure centre just off the coast.
Sydney floods: Cargo ship stranded without power off Sydney's south (9news.com.au)
Sydney floods: Cargo ship stranded without power off Sydney's south (9news.com.au)
The ship is now successfully under tow achieved in some pretty awful conditions,
Yesterday the attempts to rescue the crew via helicopter were abandoned due to the conditions which, under the current circumstances appears to be a blessing as the engineers attempt to either repair/bypass? The turbo.
The Cargo Ship Stranded Off The NSW Coast Is ‘Stable’ & Slowly Being Towed To Safer Waters
Three tugboats are now working to pull the ship out to sea.
www.pedestrian.tv
They had managed to secure 2 tow hawsers so she remained in control.
On her way to Port Botany according to the evening bulletins.