mysterious
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I'm asking about the pic of the Victory Class FAC which Joker said is being built in KSEW with Singaporean and German assistance. :smokingc:
China assures Pakistan of better Navy support
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mysterious
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And thats something imminent and inevitable. :smokingc:
PS: China is slowly but surely encircling India from all sides by deploying its naval forces all around and at the same time, warming up its relations considerably with all the smaller countries scattered around India.
PS: China is slowly but surely encircling India from all sides by deploying its naval forces all around and at the same time, warming up its relations considerably with all the smaller countries scattered around India.
Yupp, China is surely trying to do that. They've been trying to woo Bangladesh, Burma and ofcourse they already got a stooge in Pakistan. But the problem really is that India has got the following on her side in any conflict against China:
- Russia
- USA
Plus India has increased its influence in the Central Asian region and already got herself a military base in that region. If I was a neutral spectator, this India-China cold feud would be like a top grade strategic fiction novel
- Russia
- USA
Plus India has increased its influence in the Central Asian region and already got herself a military base in that region. If I was a neutral spectator, this India-China cold feud would be like a top grade strategic fiction novel
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I dont think for a minute that the US would intervene in anyother way other than diplomatically in a crisis situation between China and India. Russia cant do anything as the US will keep it at bay. Pakistan 'may' try and take advantage from such a scenario by taking out J & K. Thats about it. :cop
No I disagree. US has been increasingly propping up India against China. Plus the US has been allowed to train in regions such as Ladakh and North East, these look very China specific.
US will also not stop Russia from aggression against China. They'll be vary of Russian's expanding influence but then India and Russia have a very close knit defence pact which forces both countries to defend each other.
And Pakistan and Taiwan will take advantage, no doubt about that
US will also not stop Russia from aggression against China. They'll be vary of Russian's expanding influence but then India and Russia have a very close knit defence pact which forces both countries to defend each other.
And Pakistan and Taiwan will take advantage, no doubt about that
mysterious
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Pakistan and China also had an intimate defense agreement to come to each other's aid in an armed conflict but in 1965, tremendous US pressure kept China out of the war. So I have my money on US pressure on Russia to not to get involved as I see Russia today, as weak as China was back in 1965 (unable to do anything against 'tremendous' US pressure). Boosting up India's defense closet to coutner China is an 'indirect' way for the US to deal with China's growing influence in the region. I dont think US has any plans for a 'direct' confrontation. The two are very different things with a lot of complexities.
Well I personally believe that there won't ever be a conflict of this nature India+ versus China+ Such a conflict means (1) stalemate (2) huge losses to both countries (3) Indo-China once again fall far behind the western countries
It's bad for both countries. So no war, but if there is trust India in getting the powerful allies on its side.
It's bad for both countries. So no war, but if there is trust India in getting the powerful allies on its side.
BOLD PART: That type of language and disrespect leads to similar comments about Indian high official... I don't think you would like it.srirangan said:Yupp, China is surely trying to do that. They've been trying to woo Bangladesh, Burma and ofcourse they already got a stooge in Pakistan. But the problem really is that India has got the following on her side in any conflict against China:
- Russia
- USA
Plus India has increased its influence in the Central Asian region and already got herself a military base in that region. If I was a neutral spectator, this India-China cold feud would be like a top grade strategic fiction novel
So, watch it next time. Two way street, give some respect to get some. Good luck. Enjoy!!! [DO NOT COMMENT ON THIS REPLY, carry on with the discussion]
lalith prasad
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i think us will assist india because if china wins us will have no counter to china in asia .us considers china its biggest threat .india also has an alloy in vietnam which has a dispute with china over some islands and is therefore wary about them india already has plans for a naval base there .india is also trying to pull away myanmar from china's influence .myanmars middle level army officers are dissatisfied about the chinese influence in their country .india has sold artillery peices to myanmar and the bangladeshi army chief visited india recently to discuss arms purchases.india also offered to develop the akyab port for the chinese .there were reports of a indo-iranian joint defence cooperation and also an indo-tajik defence cooperation.india is also training afghan armed forces .afghanis havent yet forgiven pakistan for their support to the taliban .pakistan got realy worried and approched us to try and limit india's influence in afghanistan however this effort failed .recently india set up aconsulate in an afghani town on the pak afghan border which is proving a big headache for pakistan.musharraf himself raised this issue with the us.india was also instrumental in removing the taliban(pakistan influence)from afghan politics.they trained and provided all facilities for the nothern alliance.india iran russia and us were instrumental in the rebuilding and reorganisation of the nothern alliance.india provided them millitary advisors and also set up a millitary hospital at farkhor which is still operational.india also recently acquired the use of ayni airforce base tajiki8stan or uzbekistan it is a major base from where india can launch strikes on pakistan ( indian sukhois have in flight refuelling capabilities0but is out of range of the current paf jets.india still has a lot of work to do with respect to china.there are reports that india will offer its newly constructed karwar base for operations by usa india has already offered chennai to us for refuelling and reequipping .chinese got realy pissed of when india showed blackwell a tour of arunachal pradesh and carried out joint millitary excercises with them in the northeast .
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india also has proposal to build a canal in south india to link arabian sea and bay of bengal.this proposal will be equal to the suez in importance it is called as the sethu samudram project and the setting up of the colachel port this will facilitate easy movement of the indian navy fleets from west to east coast and vice versa.usa's will support india because if india loses a war with china .then definitely chines infuence in indian ocean region increase which usa doesnt want.so u see india is not keeping quiet india has already played a part in neutralising pakistans strategic depth in afghanisthan
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again full of your self!! how are you going to construct that canal do you have any idea how much such a massive cannal would cost do u know what depth would be required to facilitate Aircraft carriers to flow through do you know how long it has to be to cross the lower bit of INdia. and you can't maintain afleet in the Arabia Sea PAK navy would take care of your Aircraft carriers, as they come out of your Fantasy cannal. It's idiotic proposal!! Ships would be sitting targets to attack as they come out of the indian cannal. lol your going to comeout into the strong hold OF pakNavy
Actually, both China and India are talking about this. They want to bypass the South China Sea and the extra on costs of going through Singapore.adsH said:
It's not a pipe dream.
There are also strategic and commercial benefits to be accrued if its made.Needless to say, Singapore is not very happy and would prefer to see it fail.
Revival_786
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Isn't there a tunnel of sorts beneath Saudi Arabia? Only accessible via subs? I thought I saw that on TV
If this were ever Accomplished i mean if india were ever able to accomplish this in my life time and i have pritty much time to live (i hope ) i promise i would eat my Hat........, this is not the about the Chinese and whatever they want to build but this is about the INdian cannal. The Worlds leading architects are haveing problems building a a relatively small bridge connecting the african continent with the european continent at Moroco and spain. could you shed some light as if how they (the Indian) plaan to accomplish such a massive task of creating a massive cannal, there should be no comparison between the suez canal, its a different type and size of a canal used by the big powers of the world.gf0012 said:Actually, both China and India are talking about this. They want to bypass the South China Sea and the extra on costs of going through Singapore.adsH said:
It's not a pipe dream.
Needless to say, Singapore is not very happy and would prefer to see it fail.
I can just read out the love in your post!!!, well first of all do a fact and reality check , lets say you have magically defeated the china and you have become the Ultimate superpower of you region would the US sit back and see a massive evil super power like india engulf (its right fully owed land = small countries that broke off it) there is a twist to it Pakistan is the counter to INdia, so wet dreams stay wet-dreams. now to get to the point Afghanis Pakhtunes are 80 percent of the Populations of Afghan and they are the friends of the Pakistan and the training camp you were so proudly talking about as your consulate is a terrorist camp that recruits local low lives to carry out attacks against american and Pakistani and other allied nations. so whose the Terrorist here !!! tujakistan and Turkmanistan would never allow your jets to fly off and attack Pakistan from that vector Pakistanis and Turkmanis are practically brethren pakistanis exsist becasue of them, they were the Central russian conquerers that invaded india !!! so all your Lovely stories have counter stories here, don't make your sheer hatert for Pakistan public here lalith!!!![/quote]
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If China are in war with India,US well mostlikely help India,but not likely military(sell arms most military thing they well do to help India). Russia won´t Attack China,because they well just wait and help the winner(also mostlikely just sell arms). Money is what Russia(for the moment)are interest. All the small countery around China and India well also with for the winner. But I can´s see this war happen,the only reason why China well go to war with India is when and if Pakistan face a very very bad lose(befor that most likely China well support Pakistan with arms and politics support).
Adsh
Taiwan is part of china,not a coutry. ROC and PRC is one country in a civilwar(now a cold war). Nobody like to see a war,but if that is what they want then they should have it. I believe US well come to taiwan´s aid,but I am very very doubtful that US will attack China directly(economy attack is more likely),is well just start a nuke war,which is the last things what everybody like to see. EU and russia in this case well stay neutral,Russia well sell arms to China(if china has the money then they well sell,Russia do not fear US).
Taking taiwan is not a easy job,which well cost a LOT of lifes. As a chinese I hope there well be a peaceful unification,for the moment that hope is very very small.
Back to the topic. Does anyone know what kind of weapon well this FFG have? Is it a FFG base on PLAN FFG,or is it a new type?
Adsh
Taiwan is part of china,not a coutry. ROC and PRC is one country in a civilwar(now a cold war). Nobody like to see a war,but if that is what they want then they should have it. I believe US well come to taiwan´s aid,but I am very very doubtful that US will attack China directly(economy attack is more likely),is well just start a nuke war,which is the last things what everybody like to see. EU and russia in this case well stay neutral,Russia well sell arms to China(if china has the money then they well sell,Russia do not fear US).
Taking taiwan is not a easy job,which well cost a LOT of lifes. As a chinese I hope there well be a peaceful unification,for the moment that hope is very very small.
Back to the topic. Does anyone know what kind of weapon well this FFG have? Is it a FFG base on PLAN FFG,or is it a new type?