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China apparently seeking "Ka-50, MRLs and subs" from Russia next
- Thread starter drg
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In other words, China cannot innovate its own stuff and needs Russia. Russians have no reason to share its tech with China. They might have had a use for the Chinese if you decided not to explicative deleted them over.
I'm under the impression that China in terms of innovation is going to turn into another Japan, the world's largest xerox machine.
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Actually, China is now among the top countries in patents, mostly commercial.
http://www.awapatent.com/?id=10823
For weapons systems, China does not need Russian models as an inspiration when it can find so many in the West.
http://www.awapatent.com/?id=10823
For weapons systems, China does not need Russian models as an inspiration when it can find so many in the West.
Japan's up there too, doesn't mean much.
“In China 14 out of 15 applications are for domestic patents only.”
ReAl PrOeLiTeZ
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honestly neither of the 2 you mentioned. russia will only offer diesel electric submarines to China, most probably be an upgraded Kilo. China is well experienced in diesel electric already, with capable submarines in production/service, not to mention new projects already on the drawing board. China mostly be seeking nuclear submarine, but China by its image is already happy with its domestic ones in production/service. On the other hand Russia isn't to willing to sell China nuclear submarines.
Helicopters maybe, but China attack heli can be seen, being put through extensive test flights and weapons testing. So its not like China doesn't have an attack heli program already and fit for service soon. Maybe purchase a few for inspection of the contra-rotating co-axial rotor system but thats about all. But honestly they really dont need to.
Only deals I can see going through would be medium range transport/refueling aircrafts, and SAM's.
They have leased nukes to India to get around that issue.
Nah I have got nothing to say ... just taking in the shock. Through away the NPT I say.He means a nuclear submarine. And yes, i was wondering too, as i usually start reading from the bottom.
INS Chakra, currently on trials, leased for 10 years starting 2009.
Whether its a good omen that they give it the same name that the other rustbucket of a floating gamma emittor (a Charlie nuke) had back when they leased it between 1988 and 1991... well, we'll see.
Besides, India isn't in the NPT anyway, just like Pakistan.
INS Chakra, currently on trials, leased for 10 years starting 2009.
Whether its a good omen that they give it the same name that the other rustbucket of a floating gamma emittor (a Charlie nuke) had back when they leased it between 1988 and 1991... well, we'll see.
Besides, India isn't in the NPT anyway, just like Pakistan.
It's the only nuke sub in history to sink twice dockside.
Lol. You read from the bottom I didn't read at all. I was shocked thinking I missed something. Usually nuclear & related deals don't skip me.He means a nuclear submarine. And yes, i was wondering too, as i usually start reading from the bottom.
BUT Russia is. I thought GF was saying Russia proliferated. & Who "leases" nuclear weapons to other states?
It was only later I realized what GF was trying to say.
I don't think Indians would care much about it. Assured 2nd Strike is added advantage from the lease, the primary objective is (probably) to have 1st hand knowledge of sea/ocean based nuclear strategy, tactics & operations. & they'll also be getting awareness of the technology. Later (not sooner for sure) they would be coming up with their own nuclear submarine.
StevoJH
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If i remember my cold war history correctly, the US effectively "leased" Tactical nukes to several European countries including Germany and the United Kingdom.
Theoretically their deployment required permission from Washington, but you can't tell me they wouldn't be able to get around that.
Nuclear Weapons sharing in the NATO sense is where a US Unit looks after and guards the weapons and controls the codes, which are released to be used by the host air forces in the event of the Cold War going hot in Europe.
The US has always claimed that NPT is not breached because the weapons stay under US control until the outbreak of war, and that at the outbreak of war NPT would cease to apply anyway.
The US has always claimed that NPT is not breached because the weapons stay under US control until the outbreak of war, and that at the outbreak of war NPT would cease to apply anyway.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/theater/670.htm
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Charlie-I.html
So did the Soviets renamed the K429, & gave that to india as K-43?
hope the crew manning the reactors was Soviet.
The Ka-52 is in series production, MOD ordered a few dozens. With adequate financing, the army aviation will get 7-8 per year. They hope to build 30 of them before 2012; China, India, Syria, and Iran also expressed interest in them, according to the article.
http://www.tula.kp.ru/daily/24190.4/397325/
I wonder what impact it may/will have on Mi-28 orders?
http://www.tula.kp.ru/daily/24190.4/397325/
I wonder what impact it may/will have on Mi-28 orders?