Building Type 054A with VLS in GuangZhou

wp2000

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This 054A class's main focus point is the VLS system, and the HQ16. Other stuff are not that significant. It's been long anticipated in china, because it's supposed to be China's first general purpose hot VLS system. And HQ16 is the first type of missile to be interfaced and deployed with it. Future PLAN DDG and FFG projects need to see how 054A's VLS system goes.
 

contedicavour

New Member
tphuang said:
I personally think HQ-16 (or whatever they call what they put on 054A) is what is developed to be like Aster-15. Also, I did do a little research since last time on HQ-7, it seemed like HQ-7 was a lot more capable than I had previous given it credit for.

Anyhow, it seems like HQ-7 is going to last for a while.
Well HQ-7 is a perfect clone of Crotale Naval EDIR of Thomson-CSF, 13km, Mach 2.4, warhead 14kg. It was modern in the '80s and '90s, but by now it's getting obsolescent vs ESSM, Aster-15, though it can be comparable to Russia's Klinok SA-N-9, range 12km, Mach 2, warhead 15kg. Main issue is semi-actie radar homing depending on illuminators.

cheers
 

tphuang

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contedicavour said:
Well HQ-7 is a perfect clone of Crotale Naval EDIR of Thomson-CSF, 13km, Mach 2.4, warhead 14kg. It was modern in the '80s and '90s, but by now it's getting obsolescent vs ESSM, Aster-15, though it can be comparable to Russia's Klinok SA-N-9, range 12km, Mach 2, warhead 15kg. Main issue is semi-actie radar homing depending on illuminators.

cheers
yeah, I would think if the European embargo ever ends, Aster-15 is one of the few things that China would be interested in.

Anyhow, these are the latest photos of 054A from HP shipyard.


looks like it could be ready to sail later this year. Even in the last 2 weeks, it has changed quite a bit.

Also, we've seen from a webpage that indicates HP is currently building 2 054As. Assuming that HD shipyard is getting the same orders, it would reason that 4 054A are getting built in unison. That's a surprisingly high amount of orders.
 

wp2000

Member
Well actually, in the future when HQ16's info is available, it would be interesting to compare the figures to Aster15. On anti-missile capability and design philosophy, china likes French systems.
 

contedicavour

New Member
wp2000 said:
Well actually, in the future when HQ16's info is available, it would be interesting to compare the figures to Aster15. On anti-missile capability and design philosophy, china likes French systems.
They like French systems mostly because for a long while France was among relatively few countries willing to transfer technology ;) Though your point is right and reminds me that even the standard PLAN embarked helo is a local copy of Dauphin helo.

cheers

PS Aster is 50% French 50% Italian :D
 

wp2000

Member
Yes, France is among few other Euro countries who leak mil tech to china, e.g. Italy, Germany, UK and some from Sweden, Swiss and Spain. That's it.;)

As of HQ16, actually China got more tech help from Russia at detail level. France's understanding of future ASM threat was the interest point for China. That's why it's interesting what will show up.
 

tphuang

Super Moderator
I think I will just provide some pictures of 054A and possible VLS system. Anyhow, the first 054A is launched and is quite fitted with sensors/equipments already.
 

tphuang

Super Moderator
some picture of the second 054A under construction in GuangZhou.
They really are building these ships pretty fast.
 

aaaditya

New Member
That's just a plastic sheet to cover something. New paint? I don't know, seems that only this shipyard does this. You can see these sheets on the first 054A as well.
well thanks for the info,i thought they were covering some special type of gadget .
 
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