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Anthony_B_78

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Australian Defender has reported on this, but (lacking a subscription) I checked for myself. The budget papers show that only two variants of the Redback are being obtained - the IFV and the command and control / joint fires. What do we suppose will be used to fill the traditional other roles?
 
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Wombat000

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Anthony_B_78 said:
Australian Defender has reported on this, but (lacking a subscription) I checked for myself. The budget papers show that only two variants of the Redback are being obtained - the IFV and the command and control / joint fires. What do we suppose will be used to fill the traditional other roles?
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I dunno, but perhaps they might be ‘budgeting’ for individual variant numbers to be built.
That would keep the production line running and the budget numbers smaller at the time.

That would be a deviation from traditional bulk fleet family ordering, but consistent with a more continuous build model

But only guessing.
 
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ADMk2

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Anthony_B_78 said:
Australian Defender has reported on this, but (lacking a subscription) I checked for myself. The budget papers show that only two variants of the Redback are being obtained - the IFV and the command and control / joint fires. What do we suppose will be used to fill the traditional other roles?
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They did, but others have reported previously. It’s been known since the cut was made that only two versions were to be acquired.

Another sad example of “Defender” being so far behind all the other defence reporting.

As to what fills the other roles? Bushmaster.
 
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Maranoa

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ADMk2 said:
They did, but others have reported previously. It’s been known since the cut was made that only two versions were to be acquired.

Another sad example of “Defender” being so far behind all the other defence reporting.

As to what fills the other roles? Bushmaster.
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I don't agree they've been ahead of the curve on a fair few issues lately. Reporting the Iranian attacks on AMAB and 5th Fleet coming to mind, they were way ahead of everyone else.
 
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ADMk2

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Maranoa said:
I don't agree they've been ahead of the curve on a fair few issues lately. Reporting the Iranian attacks on AMAB and 5th Fleet coming to mind, they were way ahead of everyone else.
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Ahead of everyone, except their sources, which is usually X…

I can’t think of one single bit of news they have reported ahead of anyone else in so long as barely matters.
 
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Reptilia

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Delivery > 1st LCM within 2 years (2028) and 1st LCH around 2030 according to Marles at IODS 2026.
2 years slippage for both…
 
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Bob53

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Reptilia said:
Delivery > 1st LCM within 2 years (2028) and 1st LCH around 2030 according to Marles at IODS 2026.
2 years slippage for both…
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Just seems like an endless run of press releases on “new” spending that had already been announced that then gets slippage or deferred.
 
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ADMk2

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Takao said:
Which, of course, means that our main land combat power will go without key enablers - like engineers, mortars or ambulances. Good thing none of those would be needed.....
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Well when are we going to be defending against an invasion of Western Queensland anyway, huh?

(sic - Anthony Albanese, 2024 NDS presser).
 
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Takao

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ADMk2 said:
Well when are we going to be defending against an invasion of Western Queensland anyway, huh?

(sic - Anthony Albanese, 2024 NDS presser).
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8 July .... Maroons v Blues

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But, it begs the question, what's the plan for all these? We got lucky in Timor Leste, there was very little in terms of insurgency. Even in Somalia and Rwanda the threats were low. What does a modern insurgency look like with all the lessons from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel and Ukraine? We don't need a war with the PRC to need armour - as all these images show...
 

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Stampede

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Takao said:
8 July .... Maroons v Blues

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But, it begs the question, what's the plan for all these? We got lucky in Timor Leste, there was very little in terms of insurgency. Even in Somalia and Rwanda the threats were low. What does a modern insurgency look like with all the lessons from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel and Ukraine? We don't need a war with the PRC to need armour - as all these images show...
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Read an account of an old M113 chasing a technical in Rwanda.
Those on board were quietly hoping it would not take them on as it was better armed, faster and had the local knowledge of the area.

Army really has been let go for a generation or maybe two.

Anyway good kit is on the way.

The new challenge is how we address the drone age

A challenging space

Cheers S
 
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ADMk2

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Takao said:
8 July .... Maroons v Blues

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But, it begs the question, what's the plan for all these? We got lucky in Timor Leste, there was very little in terms of insurgency. Even in Somalia and Rwanda the threats were low. What does a modern insurgency look like with all the lessons from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel and Ukraine? We don't need a war with the PRC to need armour - as all these images show...
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Ah, but have you considered the breaking news of “mini-gun” armed Bhushmasters? Hahaha! :rolleyes:

www.defenceconnect.com.au

Speculation surrounds Bushmaster PMV prototype equipped with minigun

Speculation is building around a possible rotary gun-equipped Bushmaster protected mobility vehicle (PMV) designed to provide suppressive fire and counter increasingly common aerial drone threats.
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Bob53

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Takao said:
8 July .... Maroons v Blues

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But, it begs the question, what's the plan for all these? We got lucky in Timor Leste, there was very little in terms of insurgency. Even in Somalia and Rwanda the threats were low. What does a modern insurgency look like with all the lessons from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel and Ukraine? We don't need a war with the PRC to need armour - as all these images show...
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Are they completely clapped out or could anti drone turrets be added?
 
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MARKMILES77

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Defence has signed a contract for the construction of an M795 155mm artillery shell casing production line at the Rheinmetall Nioa facility at Maryborough. The casings will then be taken to Benalla for explosive fill and final manufacture.
This is the same facility that already produces RDM Assegai 155mm shell casings on an existing production line.
To be honest I am not sure I understand what is going on here!
The factory will now have TWO 155mm shell casing production lines running in parallel.
The Australian Army already uses Assegai 155mm ammunition but currently does not not take 155mm shell casings from the existing Assegai line at Maryborough.
Instead they import their Assegai rounds from South africa.
Not sure why the Australian Army needs two different types of 155mm rounds?
Not sure why they couldn't just have expanded the existing Assegai line for their needs rather than spending $72 million on a whole new line?

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