FutureTank
Banned Member
Ah, no, I was just kidding. I don't know of any workable way of mounting a tank turret on a helicopter
Before bought by Ericsson they used to be CH-54 Tarhe
Before bought by Ericsson they used to be CH-54 Tarhe
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This pic shows the NH90 procurement numbers by country.
First chart is the already ordered Helos,second are the Potential Orders and third are those estimated for other countries.
Now as you see Aus is quoted with a potential 15 more tho the already ordered 46.
Now what I wonder how do they got those 15? I meand did ADF or govermentr stated the possibilyty for a further 15 or what.
Because 15 more would either mean another 12 Helo Suadron for the Army, or bringing the 2 Army and 1 Navy Sqn to 14 Helos each.-
This pic shows the NH90 procurement numbers by country.
First chart is the already ordered Helos,second are the Potential Orders and third are those estimated for other countries.
Now as you see Aus is quoted with a potential 15 more tho the already ordered 46.
Now what I wonder how do they got those 15? I meand did ADF or govermentr stated the possibilyty for a further 15 or what.
Because 15 more would either mean another 12 Helo Suadron for the Army, or bringing the 2 Army and 1 Navy Sqn to 14 Helos each.-
winnyfield
New Member
Isn't the Army looking at more Chinooks (or Chook-likes)? NHIndustries might be factoring in that competition for marketing purposes.
Atm, the Navy MRH-90s are intended to replace the Seakings. No word yet on the Seahawks and Seasprite. Also, with the LHDs, there might be a need for more choppers.
Yep, the extra Chinooks for Army are a no brainer, just a matter of "how and when" not "if". Army made the most out of not being able to keep the Chooks in the 'stan, making a valid argument to government that they didn't have enough airframes to rotate them and have enough left in Oz for training.
Maybe the extra 15 MRH-90's are projected NFH-90 replacements for the Seahawks or even extra choppers for the LHD's? :unknown With the production line set up in Brisbane I reckon extra orders in the future are likely.
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FutureTank
Banned Member
Aren't there usually options in contracts for increasing quantity?
The former six Australian Chinooks are flying in Hawaii with US Army, including one that took 5 years to restore after a crash.
I doubt they are planning for Seahawk replacement yet. Around ALBATROSS the buzz was that they'd do a mid-life upgrade, not replace them.
In either of your cases, I suspect that'd possibly call for a re-activation of another squadron to account for the extra airframes, and I hadn't heard anything on that. Though time will prove me wrong, no doubt. They could simply be appended to 817 Sqn I suppose.
Investigator
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Ahh i see, thats why your the "investigator"
Maybe the Italians were keeping the options open for a VIP Helo of some sort? Conte would know better but an Italian Air one Helicopter for the Italian President or Prime minister perhpas, or they are planning on one crashing in the near future
JokerJason
New Member
I believe Australia should buy some Apache AH-64Ds..
The current eurocopter tigers are pretty piss-poor.
The current eurocopter tigers are pretty piss-poor.
ScorpionIII
New Member
new to all this
hey guys,
ive read quite a few of your posts..... im 29 and joining the army.... but that has been delayed because of a broken leg.. and yes it was a PRI (Piss Related Injury)..... but the large amounts of sitting around thinking has made me need reassurance im making the right decision again.... if you have or are still serving... in todays army is it a good career? My old mans a veteran and he is very supportive of my choice..... FYI im joining the Engineer Corps.
Thanks
hey guys,
ive read quite a few of your posts..... im 29 and joining the army.... but that has been delayed because of a broken leg.. and yes it was a PRI (Piss Related Injury)..... but the large amounts of sitting around thinking has made me need reassurance im making the right decision again.... if you have or are still serving... in todays army is it a good career? My old mans a veteran and he is very supportive of my choice..... FYI im joining the Engineer Corps.
Thanks
FutureTank
Banned Member
You ARE a joker Jason
nfloorl:Yes mate I think it's still a VERY good career choice, but you have to think beyond the Army - very few people stay to do the whole 20 years.
The good news is, the Army is very good at supporting that these days. The qualifications you get in the Army are now recognised by civilian employers - for instance, if you join the Engineers and become a carpenter, when you leave the Army you will be a qualified civilian carpenter, with the same qualifications of someone who does an apprenticeship through TAFE - only you'll be getting paid a LOT more than an apprentice, and getting to do fun stuff like fire machine-guns and blow things up.
In addition to that, the Army has a scheme called DASS (Defence Assisted Study Scheme) to support its members doing external education as long as the course is relevant to the Army. So you can pick up some civilian qualifications (as an Engineer for instance) and the ADF will pay the bulk of the costs.
Free medical, free dental, subsidised meals and accommodation, all the stuff they tell you at recruiting.
You'll also get the chance to do something very worthwhile with your life, and personally I wouldn't swap my army time for anything in the world. It's hard at times but that just makes the sense of accomplishment that much better.
As for the PRI, a mate of mine fell drunkenly down some stairs at his own goodbye party a few days before he was due to go to Kapooka. That put him off about six weeks. So don't worry, it happens to the best of us.
Edited to add: Ex-army service is also looked upon very favourably by civilian employers. I work as a geologist now (still in the Army Reserve), and there's another guy who's ex-Army as well. When my employer advertised for new geologists, they were so happy with us that one of the guys who had "ex-Army" on his resume was basically hired on the spot - and turned out to be as good as they'd hoped. You pick up a lot of good personal qualities and it also shows you're dedicated and not a dead-beat. All good things in the civvie world.
Having worked for a company hired to help ex-defence personal with employment, I don't think you'd have much problem with employment afterwards. Most don't come out of the defence force without usable skills, and I'm guessing those that do wouldn't have ever gotten very far in the defence force anyway (i.e. dead beats).
The biggest thing they seem to have problems with (without assistance) is putting together a resume But hey, most of 'em have a partner/mate/family to help them out there anyway, plus paying for that service wont break the bank.
The biggest thing they seem to have problems with (without assistance) is putting together a resume
But hey, most of 'em have a partner/mate/family to help them out there anyway, plus paying for that service wont break the bank.
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Aussie Digger
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And what do you base this assessment on?
First hand experience perhaps, or something else?
Please enlighten us, because I think most of us here are pretty positive about the Tigers.
ScorpionIII
New Member
CHeers simon9 you have put me at ease..... thats exactly what im going for actually funny you say that...(RAE Corps - Carpenter) hahah..... until my leg recovers im hoping to be working at Lavarrack as well in a civi role looking after the defence staff's mobile phones... and then kapooka once healed.
Once again thanks mate.
Once again thanks mate.
Serving is an awesome gig. There is plenty of opportunity once you get out, especially for Engineer Corps as you learn a lot of skills that help in everything from construction to mining to project management. (If you're keen, match a degree with your service experience and you are basically impossible not to employ.)
You'll make friends in the military that are for life, and you'll have experiences that you'll think are kinda cool; only to have some civvy go wide eyed and gasp when you gloss over the details.
You'll make friends in the military that are for life, and you'll have experiences that you'll think are kinda cool; only to have some civvy go wide eyed and gasp when you gloss over the details.
ScorpionIII
New Member
Thanks McTaff.... every bit of reassurance is valued...
t68
Well-Known Member
Hi guys
I am not baging the tiger i think it is a good suit for the ADF.
But i was under the impression that they did want the apache helo but like most thing in defence it comes down to price .
Eurotiger can do most things that thay wanted but being cheaper we might get more air frames when we get this lot going.
I was surprized that they did not go for the huey cobra as us marines still use them
From memory arnt they having trouble adapting it to fire hellfire misiles as being the first to use them on the tiger helos ?
REGARDS
TOM
I am not baging the tiger i think it is a good suit for the ADF.
But i was under the impression that they did want the apache helo but like most thing in defence it comes down to price .
Eurotiger can do most things that thay wanted but being cheaper we might get more air frames when we get this lot going.
I was surprized that they did not go for the huey cobra as us marines still use them
From memory arnt they having trouble adapting it to fire hellfire misiles as being the first to use them on the tiger helos ?
REGARDS
TOM