The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

deyhere said:

how can you know that a man is corrupt and still give him huge amounts of money?

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Water companies in the UK.

"Ukraine is corrupt down to the grassroot."
Another one of those Fairy Tale statements that we often see. There is corruption in Ukraine, you point your finger at corruption that you don't like. Ukraine is still working, its not the end of the world.

personaldesas said:

Their motivation for fighting the war is a different point altogether and not related to my statement. My point was simply that diminishing Ukraine’s contribution as “only boots on the ground” is bizarre.

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Ukraine has been on life support for ages, let NATO stop, let's see how long Ukraine will last. don't hype Ukraine, they are being breastfeed all the way.

deyhere said:

Ukraine has been on life support for ages, let NATO stop, let's see how long Ukraine will last. don't hype Ukraine, they are being breastfeed all the way.

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I know you are trying to bait me into defending a point I did not make, but I am not interested.
My point was very simple: Ukrainians are paying with their lives, so framing them as freeloaders is obscene.
That is all I meant, and I am not going to keep engaging with this.

personaldesas said:

I know you are trying to bait me into defending a point I did not make, but I am not interested.
My point was very simple: Ukrainians are paying with their lives, so framing them as freeloaders is obscene.
That is all I meant, and I am not going to keep engaging with this.

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And yes, I would make the same point about Russian soldiers too if someone dismissed the human cost and suffering on their side.

rsemmes said:

Because I expect people reading this thread being familiar with "different countries supporting different projects at different levels". Was SK invited to the planning of the Robotine offensive? Its shells were used there or the US replaced them one by one?

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You are just deliberately attempting to pose NATO as in some sort of permanent opposition to Russia (which it never was before this ludicrous war).

You are continually attempting to position the West via your made up catch-all terms as perpetually in the wrong and perpetually hypocritical, it's getting a bit long in the tooth now.