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swerve

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KipPotapych said:
Looking more into it, with real GDP/capita in Russia being 5 times less than that in the US, Russia has about quarter of the roads that the Americans have (and about 1.5 times more kilometres than we do in Canada). The United States has more than 10 times the population density of Russia though (and ~2.5? times population of Russia) and much more favourable average climate conditions.
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USA - 37 per km2
Russia - 8.6 per km2

4.3 times, not more than 10 times.

KipPotapych said:
Here is something many would not likely expect though: 71% of Russian roads are paved. No country with even remotely similar climate is ahead or close. Canada sits at 40% and the United States at 65%. Finland? Well, Finland paved 20% of their road network.
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You ignore an important factor: roads in proportion to population.

People per km of paved road/total roads (the fewer the better)
Russia: 130/92
USA: 79/52
Canada: 100/40
Finland: 72/12

So, in proportion to population, all these countries have more paved roads. Russia has a higher proportion of paved roads (& to what standard?) merely because it has less road per person. It has more people per km of roads in total than Finland or the USA have for paved roads, let alone all roads, & I suspect the average quality of paved roads is higher in Finland, though my personal comparison (far better in Finland, including rural areas) was in the days of the USSR, so I can't say for sure. Google street map suggests my comparison could still be valid, though.

Canada has roughly half the population density of Russia, BTW.
 
Feanor

Feanor

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swerve said:
USA - 37 per km2
Russia - 8.6 per km2

4.3 times, not more than 10 times.


You ignore an important factor: roads in proportion to population.

People per km of paved road/total roads (the fewer the better)
Russia: 130/92
USA: 79/52
Canada: 100/40
Finland: 72/12

So, in proportion to population, all these countries have more paved roads. Russia has a higher proportion of paved roads (& to what standard?) merely because it has less road per person. It has more people per km of roads in total than Finland or the USA have for paved roads, let alone all roads, & I suspect the average quality of paved roads is higher in Finland, though my personal comparison (far better in Finland, including rural areas) was in the days of the USSR, so I can't say for sure. Google street map suggests my comparison could still be valid, though.

Canada has roughly half the population density of Russia, BTW.
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I think even this data is somewhat misleading. A country with more suburbs and a more spread out population will have fewer people per km of road, vs a country with more traditional dense urban cores. Additionally the level of urbanization will factor heavily in this. And I don't know that America's endless paved suburbs are a good thing all things considered. There's much to suggest they're financially unsustainable, problematic from an infrastructure standpoint, and contribute to some problems in society. I think a true comparison would have to account for population density not on a national scale, but on some sort of formula related to total road availability to get a true comparison, if such a thing is even possible when we're talking about things as large and as different as Russia, Canada, and the USA.
 
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